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[–] MargotRobbie 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Although the BYDs and GWMs and MGs are getting popular in Australia, I have literally never seen a Chinese EV in the States outside of locally built BYD busses, and BYD cars have distinct designs that are fairly easy to spot. So this feels like posturing to me.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I have literally never seen a Chinese EV in the States outside of locally built BYD busses, and BYD cars have distinct designs that are fairly easy to spot. So this feels like posturing to me.

The Chinese business strategy has been to target East Asian, Indian, Russian, and West African car markets. They're not trying to compete with US cars in the United States. They're displacing US export markets in the Third World. You might be able to find them south of the border, however. In the first five months of 2023, Chinese exports to Latin America reached over 330,000 vehicles with a special focus on Mexico and Chile.

Meanwhile, the US has had a long and storied tradition of open hostility to foreign car manufacturers. Consequently ten different car manufacturers have plants in the United States.

These taxation and regulatory provisions are shockingly similar to the Chinese rules that guys like Biden and Trump deride as anti-competitive. And given the quality of US vehicles has long been sketchy at best, with a continued reliance on ICE engines in a market that increasingly favors the cheaper and more reliable electric vehicles, its questionable how long the Big Three domestic brands can even survive.

[–] Maggoty 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The government will make sure they survive. They're to big to be allowed to fail.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Maybe. But they won't grow like their Chinese counterparts.

[–] Maggoty 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They aren't a small business. They're multi-national corporations.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Hard to function at the multi-national scale if you constantly need bailouts.

And there are plenty of Republicans who would love to see Detroit Go Bankrupt.

[–] Maggoty 2 points 7 months ago

I think they want the UAW gone. But GM and Ford give them too much money for them to get rid of the companies.

[–] Maggoty 6 points 7 months ago

They've been getting ready to ship to the US for a while. The EX30 arrived this year and is getting pretty good reception. It's 35,000 and the best rated EV SUV at it's price point. It's 7 overall behind vehicles 20,000 more expensive.