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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (7 children)
  • If you are asking if the kbin.social instance/server can handle your existing content and future content, you will have to talk to the admin.

  • If you are asking if the Kbin software can handle your content, sure, the software is only a software. Your data will rely on the capabilities of your hosting provider.

  • If you are asking if there are Kbin instances that can handle your content, you will have to contact them individually and find a way to struck some deal.

You can check this list of the different servers/instances using the Kbin software --> https://fedidb.org/software/Kbin

Or, you can host it on your own: https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core

^_^

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I saw your reply but it is yet to federate in other instances.

I know magnet links are just links, but post sharing them are still copyright infringement right?

No. Again, you just posted a link. What determines a link as a potential Copyright infringement is the content it is linking to.

Let's use an example: https://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/7.5.4/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_7.5.4_Linux_x86-64_deb_helppack_en-US.tar.gz.torrent

It's not a magnett link, but just the same, I linked to a torrent file. It is not a Copyright Infringement.

But if the link is a link to a content that violates the Copyright Law, then there is potential issue.

Linking by itself is vague. There are countries that don't consider links as Copyright infringement, because again, these are just links. Only the host is causing piracy / infringement. However, there are countries that considers linking as an act of distribution of an infringement material, so it is illegal for these countries.

So there’s no way to scrape an instance to back it up as a third party?

If you have a script, then you can. You can submit links to web archive services and they'll scrape the site to archive a copy of it.

I understand someone not wanting to have pirated content on their instance, but do you think mods will go out of their way to un-federate?

Oh yes, definitely. You can count on instances defederating/blocking instances tolerating Copyright infringement activities. There are various blocklists available for instances to use, and there are groups where admins share and discuss these things.

So, sooner or later, an instance tolerating Copyright infringement will find itself isolated and potentially an island.

It can remain online as a regular site. It just won't be federated with anyone.

One more thing. There are blocklists and admins who will defederate instances just because they are not blocking certain instances. Thus, if I am running my own instance, I might be forced to defederate from an offending instance to avoid being defederated by everyone else.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Not really. Most fediverse software create a cache of content on their own servers to make it easier to display content for their local users.

So… this brings the issue of “hosting”.

For example, if I link to this Torrent file: https://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/7.5.4/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_7.5.4_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz.torrent (LibreOffice 7.5.4), this link (not the file), and this entire comment, will have a copy in every instance that creates a local copy of content they receive.

(Some fediverse instance even locally host images to avoid fetching images again and again.)

Now, if we assume that a simple link is “illegal”, even if it is not piracy (like in the case of LibreOffice above), then all the instances which created a local copy of this reply might be put in trouble.

The fediverse is fast in fediblocking users and instances which tolerate activities that may place most instances into legal issues.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As far as I understand if any fediverse instance decided to start having magnet links and stuff like that, eventually it would be taken down by DCMA notices and the like. But what could be done so a community like that could thrive?

No. Magnet links are just that, links.

Some questions:

  1. Would other instances that federate with it get in trouble? They can always feign ignorance.

That depends. Again, magnet links are just links. No one would get in trouble for linking to a magnet link to download #LibreOffice or to download a collection of #eBooks released in the #PublicDomain or #CreativeCommons.

  1. Could an intance which holds magnet links and trackers be backed up every day, so that as soon as one instance is taken down another one takes it's place immediately?

That depends on the people managing the servers. If they want to create backups, then yes, otherwise no.

  1. Could an instance be owned annonymously? Can you register a domain and keep a server running somewhere without repercussions?

Sure. As long as you don't use payment methods that can be traced back to you, and you ensure that your connection is encrypted and you trust your VPN provider. Since you also have to pay for a good VPN provider, that VPN provider should also be accepting a payment method that can not be traced back to you. Not to mention, you should not use your regular computer, regular browser, and definitely avoid mobile phones as you'll always be tracked with it.

  1. Could a lemmy instance live in an onion domain, and still interact with the rest of the fediverse? Would that improve anything regarding the instance being taken down?

Yes. Any #fediverse instance can live in any darknet. Now, if they can connect to those in the Surface Web or Lightnet, all comes down to if the #Darknet they are using offers a bridge back. Or, their server directly connected to the Surface Web instead of passing through a bridge inside their Darknet.

  1. What about running instances in countries that do not enforce piracy laws? Could someone in some random country that does not care maintain an instance, which all of the fediverse can access/comment/contribute?

You can do that. But that instance will more likely get defederated and included in various blocklists or fediblocks.


To sum up. Magnet links are just magnet links. There is nothing illegal about it.

The same with Darknets #TOR and #I2P. There is nothing illegal about it, unless your country passed laws about blocking it.

The real question is, which instances will have issues federating with instances that links to Copyright infringement materials. As linking (not hosting) is vague, the general reaction would more likely be to defederate that instance to be safe.

In the end, that instance's reach will be less and less and less. Probably reach a point wherein it's a lonely island.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Ultima series.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The #Kbin flagship server, kbin.social, is currently being hammered by bots and thus, the Kbin developer enabled CF features to combat those bots, which unfortunately is affecting federation requests.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There are other #Kbin instances. ^_^

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yep, there seems to be a bug in #Lemmy. I made my post from #Kbin, a similar software like Lemmy (and honestly, actually better).

Lemmy, or some instances of Lemmy, can not see or interact well with Kbin accounts and instances. For some it works, for many it doesn't. It can also be because the instances are getting too much requests than they can currently handle… so there are requests that are delayed or just stops working.

Anyway, yep, most users expect to see the older posts. If I am not mistaken, there are some fediverse software trying to find a way to add backfilling without hitting the performance (especially if the account have hundreds to thousands of content already).

Maybe one day we'll have this feature. ^_^

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

First, welcome to the #Fediverse! I'm glad you found your way in the #ActivityPub-based “federation network”.

So, wait… what are these terminologies? And what exactly is the “Fediverse”?

Think of it like this:

  • Name: Web
  • Protocol: HTTP
  • Browsers: Mozilla Firefox, Naver Whale

Then you have the Fediverse:

All these “fediverse browsers”, like Lemmy and Kbin, are commonly referred to as fediverse software. (extra info: Wikipedia calls Lemmy, Kbin, and similar answers-type or Threads-type software as “Link-aggregators”.)

There is no “Mastodon network”. There is no “mastoverse”. There is no “threadiverse”. There is no “Threadinet”, or whichever -verse / -network people are coming up with.

Any software that is using the ActivityPub protocol is part of the “Fediverse network”. Just like how any software that uses the HTTProtocol is part of the Web.

That clear so far?

Now, we go to your question.

Q: I moved to lemmy.world and have noticed that lemmy.ml has been popping up as another featured instance. What differs from lemmy.world vs lemmy.ml? Is .ml more active?

lemmy.world and lemmy.ml are called instances (the terminology used to refer to a fediverse server/service). These two are only two out of many fediverse instances available. In paritcular, these two instances are only two out of probably a hundred Lemmy-based instances available.

What differs between the two? As far as features and functionalities go, none. Since these two Lemmy-based instances are using the same software, they have the same set of features. The only difference would be if one instance fell behind in Lemmy version upgrades.

Since lemmy.ml is one of two flaship servers of the Lemmy software project, naturally it will get the bulk of registrations and content.

For example, before the Reddit Migration, there were already existing communities for many similar Subreddits, and many of those are in lemmy.ml and are very active. So, when Subreddits started to migrate, some chose lemmy.world and other lemmy instances. Which allowed lemmy.world to catch up with the number of users and number of active communities that lemmy.ml already have. AND, some of these are about the same topics/fandom.

So… yep, that's the detailed explanation. ^_^

I hope I wasn't confusing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

At the moment posts are not showing

Freshly added/followed in your #Fediverse instance? If so, then your instance will only display content posted after your instance saw it (for example, someone followed it in your instance). Currently, there is no known fediverse software that backfills content; or to put it simply, they don't copy old content (it will be very heavy on both servers).

 

A very good question, my fellow kababayans.

To put it simply, the “fediverse” is ALL software that communicates through the #ActivityPub protocol.

Think of it like this:

  • Name: Web
  • Protocol: HTTP(s)
  • Browser: Firefox, Whale, etc.

The Fediverse is like this:

  • Name: Fediverse
  • Protocol: ActivityPub
  • Browser: Friendica, Hubzilla, Calckey, Akkoma, Rebased, BookWyrm, Pixelfed, PeerTube, Kbin, Mastodon, Lemmy, etc.

The “threadiverse” is not a separate thing or network, it is just one part of the Fediverse.

Just like how the Mastodon software is not interchangeable with the word #Fediverse because it is just one part of the fediverse network.

To put it another:

  • “ASEAN”-verse is not a separate continent, it is just a sub-area of the continent called “Asia”.
  • “China” is not interchangeable with “Asia”. “China” is just one part of “Asia”.

Got it so far?

Awesome!

In most fediverse software, you will not notice that you are interacting with a user on another server who is using a different software. Just like how you do not have an idea if the website you are visiting is using Linux or Windows as its server operating system.

That is the Fediverse in a nutshell.

Q: Wait, then what is this “threadiverse”?

A: This recently created terminology simply refers to the link-aggregator (as Wikipedia calls it) types of Fediverse software. It is not a separate network, it refers to a group of fediverse software.

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