@Potatos_are_not_friends @ruford1976
arguably no movement at all, more like a proto-movement or ur-movement or collection of sub-movements that potentially, hopefully are on the verge of becoming an actual movement
tuckerteague
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@cyclohexane @quicksand A worker's co-op, such as a worker-owned restaurant, is like a half-way point of sorts, a kind of highly-localized Socialist enclave/experiment in a Capitalist sea. There are numerous examples of successful worker-own enterprises, and it's totally fair to call them Socialist, at least in their local/internal functions and spirit. But their customers will still function like typical Capitalist consumers buying goods/services because that's still the larger economic system.
@cyclohexane @quicksand
Capitalism is an economic system under which private individuals own and control businesses, property, and capital—the “means of production.”
Socialism describes a variety of economic systems under which the means of production (capital) are owned equally by everyone in society. It doesn't abolish capital, it abolishes the private ownership of capital, thus abolishing Capitalism.
@133arc585 @MobileSuitBagera I suppose "functionally" it about liquid assets vs fixed assets. One can borrow against their house in order to get cash in hand.
@Peppycito @MaccaTheHack
"Having destroyed their car..."