thenexusofprivacy

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[–] thenexusofprivacy 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Thanks for the feedback! You really don't think Evan's influential in the fediverse?

They conclude that their (obvious!) goal is to be completely untrustworthy while giving people the false belief that they’re trustworthy. And the evidence? It’s all in the quote!

No, I'm not saying their goal is to be completely untrustworthy. It's a means to an end. And the evidence for them being completely untrustworthy isn't the quote, it's Facebook, Instagram, and Meta's long history of being completely untrustworthy. I wrote about this in Wait a second. Why should anybody trust Facebook, Instagram, or Meta?. Do you trust them?

It’s “already clear that people won’t be able to move all their followers to other fediverse servers.” Why?

Good question, I edited the article to clarify:

if somebody's following you on Threads but hasn't opted in to federation, then when you move to an instance in the real fediverse they won't be following you any more.

Trusting someone like Alex Jones with the core of their business model? Riiiiight.

Yeah really, it's not like they every trusted Steve Bannon and Cambridge Analytica ... oh wait, they did.

Anyhow it's not the core of their business model. The core of their business model is harvesting data and using it to sell and target ads (and sell other stuff), Alex Jones is just one more channel to leverage.

Even if Ron DeSantis had his own Meta-sponsored instance, everyone could just block it.

You really think most Republicans would block it?

[–] thenexusofprivacy 5 points 1 year ago

Exactly. And they've already done your second and third bullets!

[–] thenexusofprivacy 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah and I don't think it's fully sunk in to Zuckerberg and Mosseri that they now have to be regulars on the FediBlock and FediBlockMeta hashtags

[–] thenexusofprivacy 2 points 1 year ago

Indeed! But here's the relevant excerpt

Of course, if and when Meta sees the fediverse as a significant threat, they'll ruthlessly stamp it out.0

But right now, they've got a huge potential longer-term opportunity to coopt the fediverse as a basis for decentralized surveillance capitalism. It might not work out, of course, but keeping a neutered fediverse around might still be useful to Meta as long as it's not a threat to their dominance (just as Google subsidizes the Firefox browser).

And in the short term, there's money to be made – and regulators to try to influence – by exploiting the fediverse.

[–] thenexusofprivacy 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Fair! Good and bad depends on your perspective and how successful Meta is. It's only the last bit about "using selfishly for Meta's own ends" that I see as inherently bad. In general though I've writen elsewhere that I think it's a great opportunity for the fediverse -- I talked about about why in In Chaos There Is Opportunity and probably will say more in a later post in this series.

[–] thenexusofprivacy 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's not so much that they'd take it over, it's that they'd extend it (in incompatible ways) and exploit it. XMPP still exists and there are bunches of clients for it, but it's basically where it was 15 years ago when Google et al first adopted it. Ploum's got some great pespectives on the XMPP experience at https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html and there are a lot of parallels.

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