redshiftedbrazilian

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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Thanks! I didn't know this was PSTU take on Lula, but I'm not surprised considering everytime I hear about them they are either supporting ukranazis or talking about "stalinism"

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Not really, I was joking (mostly)

They are a decentralized group of hackertivists that go way back to the early 2000's, and if I'm not mistaken, they claimed they are socialists, but I'm not sure.

The thing is, there is no way for us to know who are they or when are they acting and when is another group impersonatingthem, bc they want to protect their privacy while they act against goverments and other institutions.

I've seen many "Anonymous" twitter and facebook pages talking about recent topics while spreading western propaganda.Obviously, these are fake, but libs believe it anyway. And it is not something recent either, I remenber back in 2013/2014 during the huge protests in Brazil that there were a LOT of posts about them and claiming they did a series of attacks. I was really young and didnt really care but I remember thinking it was "cool". You can see many people from these protests using the guy fawkes mask.

The point is: It's very easy for the departament of state/CIA/NSA to "infiltrate" the movement and use it for propaganda. Since they are seen as the good guys^tm^ fighting against ebil authoritarianism 1984 and they have that good old decentrilization idea that libs and anarchists love so much.

Although the initial idea of the group seems cool and they have even collaborated with wikileaks, the movement could be - and I believe it has been for a while - co opted by the NSA in order to spread propaganda

I mean look at what they have done w reddit and other social media, I don't think it's too far fetched to claim this

EDIT: Just as a side note, to add a bit more context, we had big protests here in Brasil back in 2013/2014 that actually started as LEFT WING protests. The rulling class ignored it as long as they could but they grew stronger and stronger and then they attempted to infiltrate it and it worked. After some time there were all kinds of reactionaries even asking for the return of the fucking military dictatorship and it would eventually lead to the fall of the workers party and the rise of Bolsonaro and his neoliberal policies. I believe 100% the US played a key role in this process and that it was no different from color revolutions like the Euromaidan in Ukraine or the arab spring in africa. But I'll make a post about Brazil soon discussing all this with kore context, but it's getting too big and I'm trying to write it in a decent way and as succint as possible so it will take some days.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Lol libs really believe in this "Anonymous" bullshit?

I mean they DO exist but we should just call them by their real name, NSA

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

We need a Harry Potter sub to spread propaganda to libs

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