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Yep, I'm gradually shifting to S3 for my public direct file sharing as a bit of an exercise in learning AWS. It's not free, but 99.99% of the time it's remarkably cheap. If you're willing to put up with learning AWS (or any other general-purpose platform really, cloud or self-hosted,) there's a nice feeling that comes with having more leniency to do things your way and on your terms.

Now whether it works properly, however, let alone work at all, is an entirely different story. But that's the double-edged sword with going out on your own: it's more likely to be your fault, not someone else's.

id be pretty psyched if my video embedding starts working one of these days 👨‍💻

Catbox is a robust looking option that I've experimented with. I'm a bit concerned that they're blocked in a few countries, though.

I definitely agree and feel with the arguments you have here. It’s a challenging issue to resolve. On one hand there’s the practical Rock of “transitioning to another asset and engaging in the practical burden that shifting gears brings,” and in this circumstance, that would come with the extra caveat of trying to commit to that transition during a busy period as is. On the other hand is the moral Hard Place of “you’re working with an asset actively developed by someone or something with known issues—are you willing to accept, and to some degree associate, with that?” I don’t feel like there’s a clear-cut path that’s both morally bright and practically realistic, and it’s not the kind of thing that makes me dance with joy.

If nothing else, it’s good to respect that we have a dilemma in our hands. Whichever way the community decides to collectively stand, both in the short and long term, I’m happy that we’re having this conversation at all. I think it’s important to acknowledge what we have and have a meaningful discussion around it. Putting our heads in the sand and pretending it’s a non-issue at best delays the issue and allows it to fester.

I can only imagine that making this work at all can be a challenge. The recent Reddit API intrigue and the user influx couldn’t have done any favors. My moderating and community management experience is much smaller, and I already know that was a headache. I’d figure that the team here is working on all cylinders to keep things running as they are. I look forward to chipping in what I can when I can afford to. In the meantime, for what it’s hopefully worth, you and the team are Witnessed and Valued. I for one am willing to keep patient through the hiccups along the way. We’re on to something exciting here and I look forward to its continued success.

Best of luck, keep on as you are 🫡.

Pretty much—I’m in education for the trade, at least. I definitely agree with your sentiments here.

The services that Amazon et al. provide are a backbone for much of the internet and is just one example I can give off the cuff. A similar idea comes to mind when I hear about people disabling JavaScript on their browsers: sure, doing that would likely do good for your privacy and security, but a lot of the internet just doesn’t work, full stop.

It’s technically possible, and I can see why it may be the best choice depending on the lens. I have mad respect for people that pull it off, but I see it as practically unrealistic.

Hot (maybe not?) take that I suspect may be in line with your thinking here: Acknowledging a community's political trends and Striving to build a community that includes people that may not align with the majority trends do not have to be mutually exclusive.

"Beehaw" as in the institution that maintains the community may not necessarily seek to brand itself as politically affiliated, but "Beehaw" as in the word and spirit of the law of the land will inevitably appeal to a particular audience, just as any community's policies would whether intentionally or not, and "Beehaw" as in the people that make up the community are going to have political leanings within it—that's just the plain and simple nature of people having opinions they bring along with them.

I can't speak for @Gaywallet nor Beehaw leadership at large, but @alyaza slipped right in as I was about to say: it wouldn't surprise me if "we do not know what the political leanings of most of our users are" is less speaking literally and more along the lines of "we'd rather allow the lay user describe their political leaning than we prescribe a political leaning on them." I suppose a census is in order when the dust settles a bit more 🤓.

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Trends and Leanings aside, I think the most important role leadership can take here is to make sure this is a space that not only allows the lay user community to define itself, but allows users to also go against that grain. I suspect we're making progress toward Door #2 rather than #1. It's absolutely worth emphasizing that kind of conversation remains important, however. Not necessarily as something that's prescriptive like guidelines, but at minimum as a conversation the likes of "This is what the community typically seems to value, this is what it typically seems to protest. This is what seems to average out as its strengths, and these are its blindspots. What are we doing right, and how might we better ourselves to help make A More Perfect Community?"

Ooooh man, I was searching up something earlier today and out of reflex I clicked a Reddit result. Felt icky once I realized where I ended up and went Back fast 😅.

It'll be interesting to see if/how we'll come to adapt to a more decentralized getup in time. I wonder how we might quickly search through all the public federated platforms at once? It's gon' get old fast to type [x] site:beehaw.org OR site:lemmy.world OR [ad nauseum]. I think it'd be cool if decentralized platforms got popular enough that search engines would add something like site:!social.lemmy.

Couldn't have said it better myself. I definitely appreciate this piece and the body of pieces around Beehaw's policies and philosophies. I can imagine it eats at time that's likely quite important to have in the current circumstances, but the writings are invaluable insights to consider and try to apply going forward.

The fact that we have Lemmy at all, let alone the growth of ActivityPub and federated platforms, feels like the kind of miracle that would stop Aaron Swartz from spinning in his grave. Tech often has a particularly wild way of making one face their values and pick their battles. I have issues with Amazon, for instance, but I can't stress enough how a massive chunk of the internet these days relies on Amazon Web Services to get online, and I could say likewise for Microsoft or Google. I'd swear off their services if I could and embrace a hardline FOSS stance, but if I went through with that, a lot of my employment opportunities wouldn't consider me. I could probably make it happen if push came to shove, but it would be a legitimate challenge that I'd feel a lot less secure in, and I don't exactly have the safety net to afford that.

I wouldn't consider it to be hypocritical or a bad thing to pick and choose your battles. On the contrary, I think it's a mature and necessary approach in a complicated and difficult world. I'm finding it hard to think of anything in my life that doesn't have controversy and tragedy at some point in its production or history. All of it warrants resistance and change, but if I were to give everything the drive it deserves, I think I'd turn to dust.

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I agree that a fork isn't necessary right now. It certainly has no technical necessity—if anything, it would probably be technically worse to splinter the developer force. I can respect there's a moral argument to be made for it, and I wouldn't fault someone for preferring another platform over it. I think Beehaw has done a respectable job at philosophically separating itself from the controversy, however, and at this time, I'd say that's enough for me at least.

I still have an Instagram because my friends do. Without Instagram DMs and iMessage, I lose real life connections.

Yep, I'm in a similar boat with real life connections as well as content creators I like. I'd love to drop Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube, but so much of the people and content I enjoy are only in those places. I'd love to be a shepherd, but that's easier said than done with friends and family, let alone a content creator you'd be invisible to through no fault of your own.

I'd still like to minimize my presence in such places, and I'm actively working toward that. But I think it's going to be a long time before I'm completely out of there, if ever.

(pending evidence of good faith as discussed elsewhere in thread)

I think that's going to be one of the big ifs about the new platform. The optimist in me really wants to give Meta the benefit of the doubt here. If they do this "right," I think it has the potential to do great things for building up content and exposure and letting people do things their way. But admittedly I have some wariness of Meta, and I'm aware that it's likely in their MO to mess things up in the name of profit or similar.

I suppose the approach I'll end up taking will err towards a Wait and See perspective 🤷‍♂️

I say it’s cool to see a big company like Meta dipping it’s toes into ActivityPub and possibly cross-platform compatibility. I think that has the chance to expose more people to to the paradigm, and I really do think that more people should consider it. I’m wary about how Meta may approach it and what Meta may choose to do with it in time, but in sum, I’m in favor of it.

That sure doesn’t mean that I will be on Meta’s platform though 🙈.

I think it’ll be good for wider exposure, but I am wary of Meta’s history. Mastodon looks like it’ll scratch the Twitter itch in me plenty fine, and I’m of the understanding that Mastodon’s larger instances are pretty respectable in how they operate. Once I get my domain set up so I can don some self-hosted handles, I’ll be going with Mastodon’s services over Meta’s.

Not that I think it would happen, but I wonder if Discord could theoretically make publicly discoverable servers directly visible and indexable online?

Discord already has and maintains a web accessed variant of the platform. It’d require some UI for users not logged in and users not registered with a particular publicly visible server, but I’d wager it’s possible. Probably a nightmare to revamp the back-end to make it possible, but possible. It’d kinda feel like how Twitter is indexed and publicly searchable, but platform registration is required to participate, with Discord having the extra layer of server membership on top of a platform account.

It’d probably do nothing about servers that fall in a sort of visibility limbo, though, like servers that are significantly populated but invisible to Discord’s server discovery. Still, I like to daydream that kind of thing would put a dent on the platform’s information visibility issues 🤔.