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I think we have far more that we agree on in this conversation than we disagree on. We can get into the minutiae of specific UIs but that probably misses the point.

Where I agree with OP is on the first impression of the default Lemmy UI to users trying to migrate from big-corpo products

For better or worse, these folks have come to believe that "slick looking" = thoughtfully designed = featureful and advanced. And that "sterile/boring looking" = amateur UX design = complicated and difficult

We can't break that mentality in the general public by simply repeating over and over that they're wrong. It just doesn't work that way, sadly.

On my Mastodon server, we have the Elk frontend available and have it listed prominently right next to the sign-up/sign-in button as a "Twitter-friendly UI experience" (also on our About page). Then, we periodically throw up an announcement telling users that apps, Elk, etc don't provide all of the features available on the modified webUI/PWA, along with a list of what they're missing and how to learn more.

It's an "abopt, extend, extinguish" approach and it works. There's a reason corporate enshitification pioneered that strategy. We can use it too, but for good :)

If the goal of Lemmy - and specifically lemmy.world is to be a boutique, niche aggregator then fine. But that is explicitly NOT the goal. That may be what some users want but they are free to go form their own small servers and isolate as much as they want

I am not suggesting that every community needs to be growth-oriented. Small groups are great.

But they are also weak, and virtually incapable of creating and maintaining the systemic change required to protect themselves long term.

If the attitude is "let the capitalists take over everything else, I'm happy with my underground movement that struggles to survive" then that's honestly bordering on selfish. "I'm happy so I don't care about what happens to others. They can figure out how to find us and do what we do or get fucked" kind of energy. It's privileged in the extreme

The best way for small communities to thrive is through collective action. And in order for that to happen there need to be enough small communities to have any sort of influence as a collective. And in order for that to happen, there needs to be an entry-point into the collective that is accessible to newcomers.

That is what Lemmy - and especially lemmy.world - have positioned themselves to be. It's not dissimilar to Mastodon(.social)

Get ratiod and blocked, weirdo. Go try to impress someone else with your misuse of logical fallacy terminology. Some people might be convinced you're smart but probably only on hexbear lol.

Buh-bye, chief 👋

LMAO this chump thinks hexbear is a good example of...well, of anything, really.

Go circlejerk in your little group of isolationists if you want but please stop telling the rest of us about it. You sound like a weird voyeur

That's quite a novel way of saying "I don't know what enshitification is actually about, nor do I understand why broad adoption is critical for protecting the long-term existence of community maintained software". Kudos on your creativity!

Seriously though, "keeping good things small for the sake of keeping them free of interference by capitalist interests" is misguided. Quite the contrary, leaving a large audience on the table is a surefire way to guarantee that an opportunistic capitalist will capture that market and drive community maintained options into obscurity.

Damnit, copy paste failure. Fixed, thanks!

While there is no question that in modern times, both in the West and East, the term lolicon refers to a sexual attraction to underage girls, that's not how it started. This topic goes all the way back to the 70s and the shoujo manga scene which was initially dominated by women, and only later welcomed men.

As with most things in life, if you actually spend the time to look into it, these things are a lot more nuanced than you might think.

Once again displaying your ignorance.

Siscon is about having an infatuation with an idyllic image of your sister and having abnormal affection for them as a result.

It's about idolatry more than anything else.

Seriously. The sex fetish is weird. Please stop

Was I supposed to lean into it or something? Kinda sick of people ruining my fandom with their fetish bullshit. Not gonna let you just spout off these trash ideas without any sort of push back. Though I'm sure you'd prefer it

Of course they find it weird. They make fun of it constantly. But the classification/term originated there for a variety of reasons. Not everyone who likes Japanese shit is a degenerate pervert. Go touch grass

Seriously, the Western need to twist everything into something sexual is fucking weird and gross. Get help

Doesn't mean incest, though I understand how someone unfamiliar with the term and Japanese culture in general would think that. Western obsession with sex is weird