masquenox

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

It is only a matter of time before pigs or some paramilitary pig-wannabes perpetrate a massacre of protestors in the US.

When (not if) they do, watch out... it will be open-season on anybody that's marginalized or slightly left than Heinrich Himmler.

I sure hope you all are ready for this.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do you believe we can achieve those systems with our current world order? (Liberal-facsism)

Yes. But only in the chaos caused by the disasters this world order itself inflicts on the world.

How do you implement direct democracy and scale it without interference from the capital class?

You can't. It has to be done with the understanding that the capitalist class will do it's utmost to destroy you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

you also have to convince them it’s worth getting shot over.

When they start shooting protestors, the time for protest is over.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Which system could we expect to live under that would reform

We have seen all kinds of attempts to "reform" capitalism - from Lenin's "state capitalism" to the US's New Deal to our current "Capitalism With Chinese Characteristics" All of them leaves the door open for the eventual re-establishment of the capitalist mode of production and it's inevitable class domination.

what system would this task require?

We require a system of direct democracy. Some will call that anarchism, or socialism, or "council communism"... but it will all boil down to the exact same thing.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah the democrats were weak when it comes to Gaza.

The Dems were not "weak" on Gaza - they very strongly supported their favorite little genocidal white supremacist colonialist project.

But, they didn’t say “the west bank is yours for the taking. Go get!”

Nobody "handed" Israel the West Bank - the IDF can concentrate on the West Bank now because they were too entangled by their abysmal failure to beat Hamas in Gaza.

largely peaceful anti-israel protests that were commonplace under the democrats will now get violently shut down by autocratic style policing

Good. The people doing "peaceful" protest needs to learn what "peaceful" protest amounts to one way or the other.

Also trump has an extremely pro Israeli track record

So does the entire US political establishment, including anyone the Dems will allow as a presidential candidate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

The Swiss? Those people known for their (supposed) "neutrality" despite helping the Nazis squirrel away all that stolen wealth?

Say it isn't so!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Thanks to neoliberalism I don't have any money to spend on these products anyway!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (5 children)

We (from the perspective of the capital class) are the pigs threatening to eat the carrot.

No. We (from the perspective of the capital class) are the pigs rejecting the carrot... therefore, it is only the fascist stick that can now protect the capitalist order.

Nothing new about this - it's essentially what happened after WW1.

Using your analogy, how would we achieve a less exploitative relationship with the capital class?

You're essentially asking how we stop a serial abuser from being a serial abuser.

There are two ways, of course. You either remove the victim, or you remove the serial abuser.

Somehow, I don't think the former is an option.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago

No, that is a choice that

Again, liberal. That’s not my “solution” - that is what your precious status quo will be doing anyway.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Believing a politician actually cares about you is like believing the stripper likes you,

Hey, come now... there's no need to compare those parasites to strippers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

This is true... but it doesn't change the power dynamic at play at all - merely the stakes for the individual involved.

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