lal309

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[–] lal309 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Honestly, if you have never used containers before I would suggest starting with docker as it has more readily accessible beginner walk through and tutorials. From there, you will have a good idea as to switching to podman is the right move for you or not.

Personally, I started with docker and haven’t moved from there since I don’t see a need (yet). I have dozens of services running on docker. I don’t know how heavy of a lift it would be to learn podman but like I said, I don’t feel the need to do so.

Maybe try out both and see which one you like more?

[–] lal309 1 points 11 months ago

Actually pretty helpful!

[–] lal309 2 points 11 months ago

Interesting tidbit about the performance. It has been a bit of challenge getting “up to speed” with Incus/LXD from a guide and walkthrough perspective. Although I do find their documentation pretty well organized and useful.

[–] lal309 1 points 11 months ago

Well that’s kinda why I came here to the greater community as I wasn’t really sure if there would be any performance gains or other upsides I’m not aware of. Based on general feedback, it appears that there’s no clear upside to incus.

[–] lal309 1 points 11 months ago

That’s another fair point. I do have a couple of pi’s collecting dust. As someone else stated, I need to consider the time it takes me to get up to speed with incus. Can you elaborate on your experience going “from 0 to hero” with incus? Just curious.

[–] lal309 1 points 11 months ago

Fair point. I’m most familiar with docker and proxmox. Sorta doing it for educational purposes but I also have critical services (critical to me) running that must be available.

[–] lal309 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Strictly from a container perspective, wouldn’t this workflow create more overhead? For example, an incus cluster for me it would be Debian hosts (layer 1), incus (layer 2), lxd container (layer 3), docker (layer 4), app/service (layer 5). A Docker Swarm cluster (for me) would be Debian hosts (layer 1), docker (layer 2), app/service (layer 3).

Granted a docker swarm cluster would negate the possibility of VMs without having to install something else on the hosts but asking since I’m trying to keep my services in containers.

[–] lal309 2 points 11 months ago

Very true! Thanks.

[–] lal309 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Haven’t really looked into Podman as I read somewhere (if I remember correctly) that it takes quite a bit of rewrite (from docker compose to podman). Again, might be speaking out of turn here.

[–] lal309 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Thank you I appreciate your input!

[–] lal309 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You are probably right. Judging by their GitHub repo, their first release was in October of 2023. If I understand correctly, Incus is a fork of Canonical LXDs which is not so new??? Idk. Their documentation is quite good but there aren’t a lot of “guides” out there so yea.

[–] lal309 2 points 11 months ago (8 children)

I believe you are referencing the same post that got my curious about Incus and started playing around with it.

My biggest gripe is the manual installation of all services which I will do if it’s worth it. So far not sure that it is, hence the post to get more opinions.

There’s is a GUI you can install for Incus but it’s optional and not preinstalled.

I appreciate your input.

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