kava

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[–] kava 6 points 1 month ago

yeah this is just the start. it's gonna get progressively worse until inevitably the system blows up. that could take decades. i'm guessing it culminates in some sort of unwinnable war

[–] kava 62 points 1 month ago (2 children)

it shows how insane the country is becoming

we're openly celebrating war crimes and ethnic cleansing

like, before they would beat around the bush. you know the dog whistles. "anti-antisemitism" "self-defense" etc

once the need for the mask is not so strong, the mask starts to slip

[–] kava 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It is defined legally in the EU

https://artificialintelligenceact.eu/

https://artificialintelligenceact.eu/high-level-summary/

There are different requirements if the provider falls under "Free and open licence GPAI model providers"

Which is legally defined in that piece of legislation

otherwise companies will get the benefits of “open source” without doing the actual work.

Meta has done a lot for Open source, to their credit. React Native is my preferred framework for mobile development, for example.

Again- I fully acknowledge they are a large evil megacorp but without evil large megacorps we would not have Open Source as we know it today. There are certain realities we need to accept based on the system we live in. Open Source only exists because corporations benefit off of this shared infrastructure.

Our laws should encourage this type of behavior and not restrict it. By limiting the scope, it gives Meta less incentive to open source the code behind their AI models. We want the opposite. We want to incentivize

[–] kava 1 points 1 month ago

So this isn’t a new issue, and from my perspective not an issue at all. We just need to acknowledge that not all elements of a model may be open.

This is more or less what Zuckerberg is asking of the EU. To acknowledge that parts of it cannot be opened. But the fact that the code is opened means it should qualify for certain benefits that open source products would qualify for.

[–] kava 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I agree with you. What I'm saying is that perhaps the law can differentiate between "not open source" "partially open source" and "fully open source"

right now it's just the binary yes/no. which again determines whether or not millions of people would have access to something that could be useful to them

i'm not saying change the definition of open source. i'm saying for legal purposes, in the EU, there should be some clarification in the law. if there is a financial benefit to having an open source product available then there should be something for having a partially open source product available

especially a product that is as open source as it could possible legally be without violating copyright

[–] kava 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yes, but that model would never compete with the models that use copyrighted data.

There is a unfathomably large ocean of copyrighted data that goes into the modern LLMs. From scraping the internet to transcripts of movies and TV shows to tens of thousands of novels, etc.

That's the reason they are useful. If it weren't for that data, it would be a novelty.

So do we want public access to AI or not? How do we wanna do it? Zuck's quote from article "our legal framework isn't equipped for this new generation of AI" I think has truth to it

[–] kava 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean unless they start enforcing state sanctioned rape women have a choice of whether or not to have sex. I get your point though.

Iirc department of education said something like "young women are supposed to start families not go to college"

Maybe it was someone else but it goes to show how insane the federal government has become

[–] kava 2 points 1 month ago (5 children)

This is essentially what Llama does, no? The reason they are attempting a clarification is because they would be subject to different regulations depending on whether or not it's open source.

If they open source everything they legally can, then do they qualify as "open source" for legal purposes? The difference can be tens of millions if not hundreds of millions of dollars in the EU according to Meta.

So a clarification on this issue, I think, is not asking for so much. Hate Facebook as much as the next guy but this is like 5 minute hate material

[–] kava 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (14 children)

when the data used to train the AI is copyrighted, how do you make it open source? it's a valid question.

one thing is the model or the code that trains the AI. the other thing is the data that produces the weights which determines how the model predicts

of course, the obligatory fuck meta and the zuck and all that but there is a legal conundrum here we need to address that don't fit into our current IP legal framework

my preferred solution is just to eliminate IP entirely

[–] kava 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

I don't see how banning porn accomplishes this. Women are the gatekeepers who get to decide whether or not a baby gets born and as a population grows wealthier and more educated the women tend to have less kids. Has very little to do with porn which is mostly watched by men.

The solution to not being like Japan is immigration. That's why our population isn't declining every year like Japan. Without current level of immigration, our population would be decreasing every year and we would be like Japan.

[–] kava 15 points 1 month ago

immigration policies are federal regulations on the labor market. i say we open the borders

[–] kava 21 points 1 month ago

they won the election. now they are dismantling the levers of government. the goal is to weaken all other national institutions until eventually they can just ignore Congress or Supreme Court

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