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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The point is the efficiency of the money spent on them for the open source ecosystem

Hence my question about SUSE and Canonical. I have exactly zero context for being able to determine that these expenses are excessive. They very well might, but "this number is bigger than the other one" without any industry context whatsoever just doesn't strike me as a meaningful argument.

That being said, if one's primary goal is to support open source development, the best way to spend one's money is obviously to donate to software projects directly. If one needs server support AND wants to spend money in a way that does most for development, the question still stands whether any direct competitors do any better.

Edit: seems like the post from Celestial kinda settles the matter anyways
https://kbin.social/m/linux/t/107420/Reminder-that-RedHat-makes-A-LOT-of-money-already-The#entry-comment-432567

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well these contributions are now behind a paywall. The salary of the sales people devs are now safe.

They factually are not. Any fixes to RHEL go also go to CentOS Stream. and their contributions to the Kernel, GNOME, etc are freely available to anyone as well.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Also, I'm not really sure what I'm supposed to take away from the whole 66/33 thing. Are SUSE or Canonical handling it notably differently? If they've concluded spending lots on PR will get them lots of costumers, making a shitton of money with 1/3 going to devs still might lead to more contributions than making a little ton of money with most going to devs.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

RedHat is probably the biggest Linux contributor across the whole ecosystem (for the kernel alone, only companies like Intel, Google or Huawei are sometimes bigger) and the average Linux Desktop user/hobbyist isn't even their target demographic, so what money to possibly not throw at them are you even talking about? Are you currently paying money for a RedHat subscription?

Also spending money on marketing/ads isn't the same as selling ads.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (12 children)

I'd still rather see RedHat as one of the biggest kernel/linux contributors make that extra money than fucking Oracle, Amazon etc.

Also:

They sell ads first, IT second.

They sell ads? Source?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Due to my lack of strict knowledge, I take it that there is a difference of opinion on whether RedHat violates the GPL in this case

I don't think there is a difference of opinion? RedHat only offering source code to paying customers (and devs) is completely legal and in line with the GPL license. But maybe there's something more to it that I missed.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hobestly, I can respect that. They seem to be fairly open about the motivations of that decision and who it's targeted it without devolving into vague fluffy corporate speech too much. You can sense the author was a bit pissed by the reactions.
And I do agree that many of the reactions to the news seemed overblown and I think the actions make sense from their point of view without being super shady, even if it still has some negative repercussions for the open source world as well.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

It will stop a lot of people from entering random commands they googled up though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Get your facts straight! I'm not a lemmy ludite, I'm a kbin krazy!

That being said, the whole heat thing does seem to be a thing, even if it's much less significant than the CO² heating effect and not a super big deal yet.

https://fediscience.org/@rahmstorf/109558443138670245

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Isn't that just a further recipe for disaster? Isn't that just additional energy that will turn into heat sooner or later and heat up the planet?
If I'm not mistaken regulat solar is one of the few energy sources that doesn't have that problem and there's plenty sun to go around, so how is this helping anyone? (I guess it might have some applications in space?)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Yes, it's different. Self-hosting means you set up a running version of kbin (or whatever) on your own server. All the different domains you see (lemmy.ml, beehaw.org, lemmy.world, kbin.social, fedia.io etc etc) are on their own servers. Theoretically you could also set up a version where you are the sole user even.

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