fkn

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[–] fkn 0 points 1 year ago (17 children)

I don't even know where to go from here... you are proposing to exterminate all human life because some things are unfair as you see it and you think that forcing, with violence, your vision of fairness will cause the world to be boring... so nobody deserves to live.

[–] fkn 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Well, as long as you recognize your abusive behavior and realize that it isn't desirable.

[–] fkn 1 points 1 year ago
[–] fkn 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My position is that evil exists and that using socialism or communism doesn't fix that... and you say I am being unreasonable. How do we continue the discussion from this point? I'm not even defending capitalism. The implied argument you are making is that capitalism causes evil. I don't agree with that. I don't dispute that capitalism enables evil people to prosper and I think unregulated capitalism encourages evil behavior.

[–] fkn 3 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Are you intentionally trying to be off-putting?

[–] fkn 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Wtf seriously?

[–] fkn 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

This is simply incorrect on so many levels. There are people who will simply not abide by the social structures you are talking about. You are assuming an idolized group of people where there is no evil. Evil doesn't magically disappear without capitalism...

[–] fkn 5 points 1 year ago

Forced labor is not capitalism... Egyptian pharaohs did not practice capitalism. Feudal lords did not practice capitalism. Black Americans in the south did not participate in a capitalist economic system for themselves (the white slave owners may have practiced capitalism amongst each other, but the slaves did not). To suggest that they are equivalent systems of economic activity is insane.

Elements of capitalism certainly existed prior to the industrial revolution... but that is like saying that socialism is basically capitalism with regulations on ownership of corporations that employ more than a handful of employees. Or that communism is essentially capitalism except there is communal ownership of all property.

There are fundamental differences between them that is a strawman to say they are the same. It is incorrect to say that the Egyptian pyramids were built in a capitalist society because "the pharaoh owned the mines". I can't even express how inane that sounds.

We can certainly compare the difference in the lives of the common people in these societies and, like I said before, there are reasonable arguments that modern commoners have worse situations than some did in historical system... but we can do that without conflating nonsense.

[–] fkn 1 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Well that's a problem.

[–] fkn 3 points 1 year ago

I think we used the slang version of extra differently is all.

[–] fkn 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (19 children)

So your solution is to kill everyone because some people disagree with you?

[–] fkn 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think changing the wording from "capitalism is violence" (or harm). "To capitalism enables violence" resolves the wiggle room in the argument.

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