devz0r

It's pronounced emacs

You make a good point and I thought the same thing after I made my initial comments. Another one I thought about was what if a person truly strongly believed in segregation, even maybe it being a part of their religion. Does that mean it’s ok for them to deny black people? That makes me deeply uncomfortable to put it lightly; I don’t think that is justifiable.

At the same time, there is something very personal about creative pursuits. Graphic artists can reject any idea and they don’t have to justify it. And this is something that is custom made for each customer. If the artist isn’t interested, and even is morally opposed to performing the work, even if they were legally required to do it, is it going to be their best work? Can they be penalized for deliberately doing a terrible job? I don’t know

No. But he should be able to reject creating something that says “whites only” or “straights only”.

Example:

Denying a “white power” photo session - should be legal

Denying taking senior photos because the client is white - should not be legal

Denying professional headshots because the client is gay - should not be legal

Denying a “gay pride” photo session - should be legal (though you’re an asshole if you do it IMO)

But the thing is, don’t even give a reason. You don’t have to take every job, and you don’t have to say why. If you make the stand to not take a certain job because of political reasons, you are bringing negative attention on yourself

I think the difference comes down to creative outlets. Just like with the "create a website for same-sex weddings". I also feel a photographer should be able to deny a Trump themed wedding or cake. But if it's a general service or product offered to everyone, you shouldn't be able to deny a person just for being gay or black or anything protected. I don't know if I'm elaborating my thoughts about it well but do you get where I'm coming from?

I disagree with him, and I think he's bigoted. But I don't think anyone has the right to his labor and that he should be legally forced to photograph things that he doesn't want to photograph. And it's not like photography is a business that anyone can corner the market of in a small town or anything like that, all you need is a camera. It's the most common side hustle I see people try.

I hope this is ironic and satire.

Does that go the other way? The things you declare to be dog whistles can be dismissed?

Not my cup of tea but it comes down to a difference in parenting and it’s fucking weird that it needs to be a national news story that random people feel like they need to have an opinion on.

Hey, how about we not use phrases that can also be in support of genocide in some contexts? It kind of sounds like, what’s that phrase y’all like so much? Oh yeah, a DOG WHISTLE.

“Very fine people” is the most out of context quote that is easily dismissed if you actually cared to research the full context. If you care so much about truth, and if reality had such a liberal bias, surely you’d want to be correct about this?