bruzzard

State-approved "peaceful protest" is not protest. This post is a criticism over the idea of state-approved dissent and isnt about condoning violence.

LINE - just the tip of the iceberg of privacy and security concerns. https://reports.exodus-privacy.eu.org/en/reports/jp.naver.line.android/latest/

This is exactly what I did. Its the longer game but now I have everyone I usually communicate with on Signal. This includes group chats. Now I just tell everyone I meet that I only use Signal, and they get the app and add me up. Its the only way people resistant to Signal will come around. And from my experience at least, its worked tremendously.

Agreed. May best to get family and close friends on Signal right away. Telegram is horribly unsecure.

Signal desktop is designed to be a stand alone app that uses the phone phone to first verify the connection via QR but after that relays messages, calls, erc direct from and to the server, inrependently of the phone app.

Opening para from a NYT article on the Waldorf School in Silicon Valley:

"The chief technology officer of eBay sends his children to a nine-classroom school here. So do employees of Silicon Valley giants like Google, Apple, Yahoo and Hewlett-Packard.

But the school’s chief teaching tools are anything but high-tech: pens and paper, knitting needles and, occasionally, mud. Not a computer to be found. No screens at all. They are not allowed in the classroom, and the school even frowns on their use at home."

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/23/technology/at-waldorf-school-in-silicon-valley-technology-can-wait.html

Unless you want to run communities there I wont bother with it. I feel everything from setting up accounts (anonymously) to getting people to join, works better in SimpleX and Session. I'd even be happy using SimpleX as my everyday messenger. Matrix is a little clunky and the fact that all conversations get duplicated on the primary Matrix servers is cause for concern.

With Signal and SimpleX, servers are used only for relaying messages beteeen users - messages which are encrypted on the device.

In the end you are going to be sacrificing something, and the last thing you'd want to sacrifice is privacy and security.

If I was pushed to list my go to, it'll be Signal for chats with people I know: because its open source, battle-tested against adversities, and can be set up by anyone who understands how ro use Whastsapp / Telegram.

For communitties (and even as a daily text solution beteeen collaborators or anyone you dont want to exchange numbers with), I'd use SimpleX as it has a lot of in-built anonymity and decent privacy (so far - its a fairly new project).

Theres just too much fuzziness round Matrix for anyone to trust it.

Telegram is neither private nor secure. Its not encrypted bu default. Normal texts as well as group chat is stored unencrypted on its servers.

For everyday use with friends, family and work (assuming these folks already have your number), Signal may be the best thing out there as its open source both on server and app levels. Signal is also end to end encrypted (E2EE) with decryption keys stored on device.

For anonymous communications Session and SimpleX may be better as they are both E2EE and doesnt requie a phone number as an identifier.

Just chuck out Whatsapp, Telegram and all the other closed sourced garbage apps.

If you are reffering to Signal then both app and server are open source. Just that the server is centralised.

For community building, try checking out SimpleX. Its open source and has an interesting take on anonynity. Plus it doesnt require phone numbers to create a user identity.

As for either being censorship resistant, I am unsure how we'll they'd cope. But my guess is they would perform just fine in most scenarios.

Out of curiosity, why Matrix and not these other options:

• Jabber/XMPP - has a creat client called Conversations (decentralised)
• SimpleX - by far the most anonymous and potentially decent privacy (centralised server)
• Session - a Signal fork without requiring phone number

• all of the above are listed on F-Droid

Libre Wolf with uBlock preinstalled could be what you need.

Same thing happening to me on Jebora. If this is happening to other apps, then it may be a lemmy.world issue and not a Jebora bug. Getting logged off in mid use and thinking I'm still logged, only to find out I've lost functionality.