Thats because you didnt write your wet ink signature in red ink at a 45 degree angle when you applied. You also have to declare that you do not accept the terms of the contract and prefer indefinite extensions under Title 18 chapters 213 and 214.
If you do that, you don't have to renew you license anymore.
If you found a person who had never seen any of these. they could accurately guess what most of the icons on the right are for. And they could probably only guess gimp from the left.
Also, the apple side are app icons, while the FOSS side are a mix of icons/logos/mascots.
Icons don't need "personality" as much as they need to be descriptive and useful. And for Apple default apps, they don't need to be branded with a flashy mascot, because they aren't trying to win your brand loyalty, you already are using macOS, so they already won.
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In conclusion, I want to thank you for such a cordial and friendly conversation. I've borderline forgotten how decent people on the internet can be. I can't imagine a "debate" remaining this civil on reddit. (And if I was anything less than civil, I apologize! The broader internet has trained me for a fight or flight response for replies.)
I'm sure it has. Pine64 has nothing to do with it, but it's their hardware, so they should. And the point of Drew's blog was that they did a nice job of disincentivizing the community. so the community is smaller than it could have been.
And "work" here being a shorthand for "work to satisfactory levels".
The camera works on my pinephone, and it takes pictures that remind me of the digital camera I had in 1999 that saved images to floppy disks.
Bitwarden would run, but it was running as a desktop app and was a pain to use (no lib handy here), and it obviously wasn't going to offer to auto fill across the entire OS.
Phone worked, but I don't receive enough calls to validate it, and pine's own wiki states that the there are modem issues. It may be perfectly fine for me, but not something i fully trust, and that's a factor in acceptance.
and signal I would assume I would have to waydroid. But I never got waydroid set up. Hopefully that's something that has gotten easier in the past 2 years. 2 years ago there was multiple hoops to jump through with installing kernel modules or something, and seeing a list of steps to take (and not just being able to install it from a repo in 1 go), when I was already dealing with performance issues, I just assumed it wasn't going to be worth it.
Who knows, maybe I'll give it a try again and come to a more favorable "it's fine i guess, but still not as good as my 2017 android phone in any capacity except 'not google'"
The main difference is that the old Nokia phone runs proprietary software.
The point was that different people have different standards. There are a lot of people on places like HN that will say things like "People use their phone too much, a Nokia has everything that everyone needs! That's what I use!" without accounting for other people's use cases. That's a very self centric view. I need X, some people might need X+Y or X-Z. If you have to hedge your "it's good enough" with "if you can handle these 100 workarounds" then it's more accurate to say "it's not good enough, unless you're ok dealing with these 100 workarounds."
I haven’t noticed any missed calls on my original PinePhone
That's awesome. I rarely answer phone calls anyway, so that doesn't impact me much. This was purely reflective of the state of things. "Probably fine" and "definitely works" can be a MAJOR difference in the scope of daily driver readiness for most people.
camera
The camera on my pinephone actually opens and can take pictures. it just looks terrible. To the degree that I'm at least 75% sure that it's a sensor issue, and no amount of software tuning is going to bring the sensor up to the level of other phones. Considering my primary use for my phone is taking pictures, "the camera works, but its terrible" doesn't fit my use case (admittedly, this may be a specific to me use case).
no push notifications
Oh. yeah. That's probably a deal breaker for most people too.
And to re-iterate. I can totally see this being a usable device. I own two. I've seen how it can perform. and I'm excited for the possibilities. It just feels a bit too jank for me still, and im pretty tolerant of jank. If other people are more tolerant than me, I applaud them.
I believe you, but the hard part about "It was good enough for me" is that an old Nokia brick phone is "good enough" for some people. I have no idea what your standards are.
Maybe there's a way to get it to that state. But the lock screen on my pinephone pro stutters, much less "making apps work". I was able to do all the things I wanted to do, it just was a horrible experience.
I bought two pinephones. I REALLY want this to work out. I'm not some sort of anti-linux phone antagonist. I've tried to make it work personally. I would love to know what the setup (what OS, phosh, etc?) I need to make my devices work great, if they are truly that usable.
edit: https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/PinePhone_Pro#State_of_the_software
The "official" state of the software from pine64.org itself states the modem crashes often and results in missed calls, camera still a WIP, and no push notifications when the phone sleeps (so the phone just never sleeps, thus the terrible battery, i presume).
"Good enough" feels like it's only true if you're the kind of person who otherwise argues that smart phones are bad, and not if you're the kind of person who uses your phone as a multi-tool in your pocket.
When you're a trans teen from OK getting beaten to death by classmates, the culture war feels a lot more urgent to focus on in the moment. Survival isn't something you can be passive about.
Some people partake in the culture war as part of manipulation by the rich... Some people are forced into it by defending themselves from the first group. And some people are compelled into it to protect the second group.
While you're not wrong about how we got here, it feels like it would be too easy for one side of the culture war to spin this as "Ignore my bigotry, Wall St is the real enemy!"
He saw himself having an epiphany about privilege in general, so he had to swerve and add race into the mix so he could say a true (albeit unrelated) thing and miss the point.
It's like when anti BLM people say "All lives matter" ... Sure, all lives DO matter, but they're intentionally missing the point, so they don't have to acknowledge that police brutality disproportionately affects black lives.
Saying unrelated "true" things to undermine the original statement is a bit telling about intentions.
LineageOS doesn't support Play Integrity either. Custom ROMs seem to be doing just fine.
There's the stories about "I have to have Windows because the school's exam proctor software requires Windows and doesn't work with Linux" but ultimately that's not the thing that stops the year of the linux desktop. And banking apps won't be what breaks the year of the linux phone.
What are we doubting? That their friend runs a pinephone? I agree.
I have a pinephone and pinephone pro. and neither one has felt good enough to be a daily driver. but then again, i havent really tried using it since like february 2022 when I got the pro. maybe the software has gotten a ton better since then. (I dont have high hopes. Drew Devault has a real nice blog post about pine64 chasing devs away: here)
Realistically all I need in a phone is password manager, phone app, camera, signal. And I dont think I ever had any of those things work in a "actually reliable and smooth enough for daily driving" state.
My dad once told me my mom didnt feel safe walking alone at night in the neighborhood and asked if I felt the same. I said I didnt feel any concerns, but added the caveat that Im not a small woman, and Im a large man.
He paused for a minute, nodded and said "that makes sense." Then after another few seconds goes "That's not white privilege."
I'd argue it's literally the opposite of what you're saying. They are trying to make the product easier to use by making it explicit what the icon is for. If that makes you happy, that's not locking you in.
They do plenty of locking in. This is not that.
I'd much rather tell grandma "the music player is the music notes" ... she'll remember that. and not "the music player is the one with the lightning bolt" because she won't remember that.
Even if you don't like him. I highly doubt Jony Ive designs things by just googling cartoons. Lots of thought went into these icons. I feel like these are from multiple eras of macOS... Theres the "consistent" ones (the circles) and the "skeumorphic" ones (the stamp, the contact book, calendar)
As far as ICONs go, I vastly prefer the ones on the right. As far as brand mascots go, I prefer the ones on the left.
We're not even comparing apples and oranges here. Neither side is soulless, theyre just achieving different objectives and you seem to have a bone to pick with apple.