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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

the .NET environment is vast and can be confusing, especially when new to it.

Yeah it was prompted by someone on Mastodon asking about it, and Rocky saw it. I saw the reply too, and thought it was still a little vague, then a few days later this blog post turns up :-)

BTW if anyone wants to follow him he's Rocky Lhotka. He's on Pixelfed too (and Bluesky), but not as much work stuff on his Pixelfed account.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think omitting .net core is not the best decision.

Yeah that confused me a bit too, then I found he talked about it underneath the table

 

Maybe something to add to the side-bar?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Alas, if only that were always true :-(

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Yep, "change anything the users like just the way it is"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

My high school taught Java, but I didn’t get OOP

Yes, the correct sequence of events - one thing at a time, basic programming, then OOP. :-)

Python is not that.

It's not a lot of things, which makes it poor for a teaching language.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

P.S.

not just to the point of ignoring, but actively down-voting

I've been downvoted when I've made actual factual statements (which should be upvoted!) - people do like to express their displeasure 😂

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I guess this community doesn’t want this kind of content, even if it’s the official dev blog

Been there, done that, got the t-shirt :-)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Lots of us

Also, who do you mean by "us"? Programmers? Not all the kids in class want to be programmers, and this isn't a programming class - it's Computer Science. We cover topics like hardware, the Internet, Cybersecurity, the history of computers, data analytics, etc. Not only do not all of them want to be programmers, not even all of them want to be in I.T. - they're just, you know, interested in computers (or in some cases they're in the course because their parents think they should be in it - I've had a couple of those students). We only spend 6 weeks on programming (we spend 6 weeks on each topic), or sometimes we might do it twice and spend 12 weeks on it, and that's it for the year! You can't teach Year 7 kids algorithms, pseudo code, basic programming concepts (variables, branches, and loops) and OOP as well in one year. Especially when not even all of them are interested in programming. It's just one topic we cover. OOP is something that shouldn't be covered until at least Year 8, preferably Year 9 (by which stage students have decided if they want to continue on this path or not, and the ones we still have left we start getting more hard-core... which is where the "us" I presume you're referring to come in).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

have the experience of being the kid in that situation

Which kid? The gifted one, the one who didn't understand loops and used 20 variables for 20 iterations, the one who didn't understand how to write pseudo code, the one who was dyslexic,.....?

I learnt python in secondary school

Which Year? I didn't say it wasn't appropriate for high school, I said it wasn't appropriate for Year 7 as a first programming language.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Oh, I should clarify that. Teaching Python was decided for us by admins. The course material MAY have been designed by a teacher, but then also it may have been designed for Year 9 say. It's inappropriate to be teaching it to Year 7 as a first proper programming language, but that's what we had to do (otherwise then we would also have to make all our own resources to do it, and don't forget at this point that I didn't know how to program in Python myself yet! So yes, I had to use the already made resources, which had OOP in it).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. The decision was made for us by school admins, NOT CS teachers. That's why it was the stupid reason I had to learn Python.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

P.S.

teach them c# and I guarantee they will be making executables to cause trouble

No, you're overestimating the students ability. I taught C# in coding club (they were mostly around Year 8), and it was a struggle just getting them to understand basic programming concepts (imagine having to explain MVVM to them - they're not good at understanding abstraction) - they wouldn't have had a clue how to turn it into a malicious exe.

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