Well, there's already a discussion on the mailing lists, and while I can't speak for the project, (nor am I an attorney, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night), the "Main" openSUSE Project logo is a registered trademark of SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH, so it's highly unlikely that it's going to change.
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Well, I can say, with all certainty, that while I appreciate the submissions, and the community making themselves heard, that isn't the new Kalpa logo.
Yes, Printer setup on openSUSE is still a clusterfuck, for reasons. You're best off in openSUSE KDE to just point your webbrowser at http://localhost:631 and log directly into CUPS and setup your printers that way.
If you want all your web video and whatnot to work, you need to install the codecs from Packman, in their entirety, or use a flatpak'd web browser. openSUSE won't ship patent encumbered codecs from the official repositories.
Unless you really know what you're doing, with Leap, or Tumbleweed, stick with the OSS and non-OSS repos provided. They are the ones that have been through the openQA process, and are officially "supported". If you enable a bunch of home: devel: or other repositories, just assume that they're unstable, and use at your own risk. If you're looking at a repository on OBS, and don't see openSUSE_Tumbleweed as one of the build targets, then forcing the install with a Leap or SLE package, may, or may not break things.
Regarding zypper ref and autorefresh, I can't recall exactly, but there is the chance that just running zypper dup and hoping that it refreshes everything on it's own, with non-standard repositories may fail, which can lead to some weird edgecases.
Just in general, you're going to want to run zypper ref && zypper dup (not the other way round) As far as YaST being targetted more at Leap than Tumbleweed, you're exactly right. And there's a reason that we don't ship it with newer flavours of the distribution.
Well none of that sounds like sketchy behavior on the part of the Management Company.
Not at all.
I would say so, but things take time to filter down through, and as always within openSUSE, the folks that do the work, are the ones that decide how they want to do things, and what they want to work on.
To some extent, with openSUSE "the will of the users" isn't particularly relevant, because most of the userbase aren't the ones that maintain the thing, and as a wholly volunteer developed project, the developers work on what interests them. It's not that nobody cares about the users, but if the users are the only one calling for $thing, and there isn't a developer interested in doing $thing, it isn't going to happen.
shrug I'm not sure what more can be done, it isn't as if you can make people vote.
Correct, SUSE, the corporation is no longer providing a traditional linux distribution, after the SLE-15 EOL.
openSUSE, which is a community project, and not controlled by SUSE, is currently debating as to whether we have the contributors interested in doing so, and in sufficient numbers, to continue to provide a traditional point release distribution.
Tumbleweed (the rolling release) is not going anywhere. The community has not yet decided if the interest and manpower is there to use the ALP sources provided by SUSE to create A) A traditional linux distribution, akin to what Leap currently is, B) a "Slowroll" version of Tumbleweed, that has a slower release cycle, or C) Nothing at all, because there isn't the community there to support the development of it.
SUSE != openSUSE
That is indeed the big question, if there's nobody willing to put in the work, then there's nothing to release.
Maintaining something like Leap, with the contributor base that has historically existed, isn't sustainable, long term, especially when the upstream is going in a different direction.
Then yes, there are all kinds of things in the repositories that are going to annoy you.
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It feels pretty good, as well as looks pretty good. YaST and the YaST installer have been basically in maintenance mode for a long time, without any active development for a number of years now, and it's certainly time to move on.