RunningInRVA

I’m tired of talking to you because you keep trying to put words in my mouth or creating alternate understandings for which I am clearly stating my opinion. So you can “win” based on my own exhaustion of your rhetoric against mine. I’ve stated my piece and do not desire to argue it further. I hope you have a nice day and despite my desire to end the discussion, I hope you can appreciate my opinion in at least some form. Good night.

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Dunno. Tried to cover for OP.

I thought you were looking for examples of her having lots of following and money, which seemed like a strange thing to have to prove.

For grudges, I think her rule is that she doesn’t hold one, “per se”, and rises above it. I do remember an incident with somebody (want to say Kanye) at an awards show and the way in which I remember her handling it was to let her class and fans speak out for her without having to use her mouth to cut someone down.

Her post has sent over 300k people to vote.gov within 24 hours. Does that work for you?

Do you think anyone (regardless of race) should have received that level of response in that situation ?

As with any dispute, both parties can always strive for more, but I try to put myself in the cop’s situation. How long is long enough before you have to pull somebody who is clearly not cooperating from their car? Not following a lawful order during a traffic stop is a misdemeanor, which means you may be exiting your vehicle whether you like it or not.

Do you think anyone (regardless of race) would have received that level of response in that situation ?

I am positive racism plays a part in policing. But I didn’t see anything in this that leads me to believe Tyreek’s skin color affected his outcome. I’m a white dude and I easily see this happening to me if I did what he did.

I’m sorry he got pulled from his car and cuffed, but my reaction to the video was that he had this coming.

I'd personally view that as two opposing viewpoints, either you think he had it coming or you're sorry it happened.

They are not opposing or mutually exclusive viewpoints. I can be sorry for someone for the outcome they have been dealt based on their own actions. I can be sorry for him but also unsurprised.

In these exact same circumstances, you'd expect a white person to be treated in the exact same way ?

Yes, I truly feel this way in these circumstances. Perhaps I’m a naive idiot, but I just didn’t sense that he was treated that unfairly given his actions.