LengAwaits

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[–] LengAwaits 0 points 3 months ago

This is really clever if you're okay with convincing yourself that you know exactly and completely what other people believe.. Otherwise it's a reductionist hot take filled with logical fallacy.

[–] LengAwaits 0 points 3 months ago

I'm not as certain that it would be obviously less, as there are surely myriad factors about which I have no information. But I respect and understand where you're coming from.

I'm not sure that the regimes propping up Iran wouldn't take the opportunity to capitalize on a serious draw-down of Israeli munitions, for various reasons, logistical (supply-chain) reasons among them.

[–] LengAwaits 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I pretty much agree with your positions 100%, in broad strokes, and will continue to send letters to that effect to elected officials.

I also believe that there are likely a slew of very complicated and interconnected factors within geopolitics that I'm unable to consider or include when formulating my opinion due to the classified nature of much of the world's foreign policy. For that reason I also try to rein in the part of my mind that tells me I know best what should be done.

The world is so intensely complicated and I struggle to not allow the perfect to be the enemy of the good, as I did in my 20s and 30s. It's very difficult to do when we're talking about death and destruction no matter what path is chosen.

The more I learn, the more I realize I don't know.

[–] LengAwaits 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Okay, I can work with that. Do you think ceasing all weapons shipments to Israel tomorrow would create a situation in which more or fewer people would die in the middle east in the next 10 years, and what is your reasoning behind that belief?

[–] LengAwaits 0 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Yes. I do mean that one, and I agree that is was not enough. What additional stoppages do you think should occur?

[–] LengAwaits -2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Okay, so let's discuss the level of armament withdraw you think would be appropriate, and the affects varying levels might have.

[–] LengAwaits -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (10 children)

Is there any middle ground between “not receiving 20 billion a year in weapons” and “disarmed”

Of course there is. The US has already stopped sending certain weapons aid to Israel over the situation in Gaza.

I'll mostly ignore the childish insult, but you can do better at discussing the world like a mature adult, I'm sure.

[–] LengAwaits 1 points 3 months ago

What makes you so certain of that outcome?

[–] LengAwaits -2 points 3 months ago (14 children)

Let's imagine a world where we stop sending weapons to Israel. What does a disarmed Israel look like, in your imagination? How will it affect the geopolitical situation in the middle east?

[–] LengAwaits -2 points 3 months ago

the US foreign policy never change between the two parties

This is such a reductionist take on an incredibly broad and complex topic that I have to wonder whether you're joking.

[–] LengAwaits -1 points 3 months ago

Isn’t it common knowledge at this point that Jill Stein is literally a spoil candidate

To all but the most naive it is.

[–] LengAwaits 1 points 3 months ago

That's totally fair, and to clarify my own stance: I don't think it's likely, or even possible that the human population will drop to 0 in my lifetime, let alone in the next few hundred years.

I'm primarily concerned about a compounding of factors that lead toward an increasingly higher probability of that outcome. I'm thus unwilling to take a "we don't have to worry about human extinction because it's statistically unlikely" stance. I'm also not attempting to assert that that's your stance, either. I don't know enough about what you believe to make any assertions about that at this point.

I really appreciate your reply, and I'm not trying to be snarky, here. I came to Lemmy, initially, looking for higher levels of discourse than are available on Reddit, and I get a little high-and-mighty about that. So I also apologize if I'm coming off as an ass.

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