Kashbus

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[–] Kashbus 3 points 1 year ago (7 children)

If you find it not complicated then you are either uneducated and not impartial

I hope for the former and that you will educate yourself (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict)

[–] Kashbus 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thank you for the updated list

The insult is not needed by the way

[–] Kashbus -4 points 1 year ago

Historically is not the same as current: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/10/24/hamas-israel-death-toll-health-ministry-trustworthy-reuters/

"Hamas has now been in charge of Gaza for 16 years. It has squeezed the life out of honesty and probity. Any health official stepping out of line and not giving the death tolls that Hamas wants reported to journalists risks serious consequences. I'm not denying there are civilians being killed. At all, including many children. That's verifiable. What is not verifiable are the numbers that emerge throughout the day from Gaza of new death tolls — 700 killed in the last 24 hours, 500 killed in the Ahli hospital car park blast, 5,000 killed since October 8. Hamas has a clear propaganda incentive to inflate civilian casualties as much as possible. There was a time when the figures from the ministry could be relied upon. The doctors and administrators knew what they were doing."

[–] Kashbus -3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/10/24/hamas-israel-death-toll-health-ministry-trustworthy-reuters/

"Hamas has now been in charge of Gaza for 16 years. It has squeezed the life out of honesty and probity. Any health official stepping out of line and not giving the death tolls that Hamas wants reported to journalists risks serious consequences. I'm not denying there are civilians being killed. At all, including many children. That's verifiable. What is not verifiable are the numbers that emerge throughout the day from Gaza of new death tolls — 700 killed in the last 24 hours, 500 killed in the Ahli hospital car park blast, 5,000 killed since October 8. Hamas has a clear propaganda incentive to inflate civilian casualties as much as possible. There was a time when the figures from the ministry could be relied upon. The doctors and administrators knew what they were doing."

[–] Kashbus 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

not incorrect, but it's a common tactic used in Asymmetrical Warfare that is seen in the Levant when one side dwarf the other in conventional military size and strength

is it honorable? no, but it one of the few tactics hamas has in operating against Israel

[–] Kashbus 5 points 1 year ago (12 children)

It's a bit more complicated than that no?

[–] Kashbus 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Source? I was under the impression that Hamas was in charge of all Governance in the Gaza Strip

EDIT: Following the 2007 Hamas takeover of Gaza, a month-long doctors' strike ensued due to political disputes. The new Gaza government, with Basem Naim as Health Minister, replaced Fatah-affiliated hospital directors and staff with Hamas loyalists. Jomaa Alsaqqa, a 20-year surgeon at al-Shifa Hospital, lost his job due to his Fatah support and faced arrests and assaults since the Hamas takeover. In response, Naim stated "the hospital managers weren't fired for political reasons: they were fired because of managerial, financial, and moral corruption in the hospitals." per wikipedia article here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Health_Ministry)

While there are political independent and non political members of the Gaza Health Ministry it is still under the direction of Hamas itself.

This is an area of credibility that is still up in the air with reliable sources claiming that it is both reliable and unreliable numbers that are being published. None of it though dismisses the fact that innocents are dying from Israel's War with Hamas, innocents that contain children

[–] Kashbus 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And one may also argue if Israel miraculously manage to destroy Hamas, there would be soon another group taking their place in the open vacuum so this would solve nothing in the long term. The only way to solve this problem is Israel to offer Palestine some concessions, cease fire and start treating them fairly in exchange of change of the leadership in the country and disarment of the Hamas war wing, which I don’t see happening with the current government.

in all honesty I don't think there is any good outcome from this outside of a potential return of Fatah into Gaza

In the past Hamas was willing to work with Israel to avoid violence under the assumption that Israel would assist with Aid

However with Israel's recent actions in the West Bank over the past few years I do not believe that there will be any true lasting peace until there is a political shift in Israel's leadership

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