JochCool

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

This is not news. It was the same last year.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

It's the second time politics has dominated Eurovision,

Okay, this author has not been following Eurovision for very long then. Here are some that come to mind:

  • 1964: Stage invader protested against Spain's and Portugal's dictatorships
  • 1969: Organised by Spain
  • 1973: Israel debuts
  • 1977: BBC cameramen stike right before the contest
  • 1978: Israel wins
  • 1990s: Yugoslav Wars and dissolution of Soviet Union, with some countries participating while at war
  • 1998: Israel wins, with a trans performer
  • 2003: Invasion of Iraq, UK was allowed to participate but got last place
  • 2009: Azerbaijani government interrogates people who voted for Armenia, Georgian entry is anti-Putin
  • 2012: Organised by Azerbaijan
  • 2014: Start of Russo-Ukrainian war
  • 2016: Ukraine wins over televote favourite Russia
  • 2019: Organised by Israel
  • 2021: Belarusian entry being government propaganda
  • 2022: Russian invasion of Ukraine

Eurovision has always been political.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

493 in favour, that makes me very happy to hear. Amid all the horrors of the time we live in, there are still some places where some human rights are unchallenged.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

What? Now already? That's sad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not sure how much you know about Eurovision, but each country's jury is appointed by the participating national broadcaster, not the organisers. And we've seen before that if the points announced during the show are different from what a country's jury voted, the national broadcaster loudly complains about it (see the 2022 jury drama). This means that if there was some conspiracy to give Sweden points, the broadcasters and their jury would have to be in on it too, including those of Finland, Moldova, Israel, etc (which all gave 12p to Sweden) – certainly not countries that have any interest in Sweden winning. I can't imagine the EBU pulling this off and compromising their own integrity just for a nice anniversary.

I think the actual reason for the disparity between the jury vote and the televote is more nuanced than that. The makeup of the juries could play a role here: it's only five people per country, and it's largely radio hosts, TV personalities, and songwriters, who have already established themselves in the industry. So it's not a conspiracy, just bias. Another factor is that the juries only give points to the countries they ranked at the very top; the 11th best song gets the same number of points as the 26th ranked song: zero. By design, this will mean one country or a few countries will get a big jury lead, then some countries get in the 100s of points, and most get less than 60 points. And the same with the televote. This year this was quite obvious, but it's not the first time. In 2017, Salvador Sobral got even more jury points than Loreen got this year, but because he was also the televote favourite, no one said his victory was undeserved.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Not every Eastern European country is like Hungary though... In fact it's only Hungary, now that Poland's getting a new government.

Also it's not like Western Europe's free of populists either.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

At least then limit your attacks on the Israeli military or police. Mass killing civilians does not do anything about the genocide of Palestine. There's a good chance it'll only make it worse.

The idea that people just being in a country are automatically complicit with the government's actions is the real mental gymnastics here. And yeah I understand that hatred can make people blind, but that does not make it justifiable.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Shoot the person harassing you, sure. That's something completely different from killing civillians arbitrarily.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"besluiten" is hier een zelfstandig naamwoord meervoud, niet een werkwoord. “Op de dag dat het kabinet besluiten (...) moet sturen.” Maar het leest inderdaad niet makkelijk.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I still have some Reddit Premium left, so I don't get ads, so I don't feel guilty about visiting the site occasionally. But I removed the link to Reddit from my task bar, so the times I visit the site is almost always just because I followed a link.
That said, I do miss Reddit a little bit. Kbin replaces it partially, but simply because if its size it's much more likely you find something interesting on Reddit than on here.

 

This is by far the most nuanced take I've seen on Eurovision's voting system; it's definitely worth a watch.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (7 children)

De mens is toch juist een sociaal dier met sociale constructies? Dat is wat ons primaten onderscheidt van andere zoogdieren.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Mij lijkt het een slecht idee om nu al zeker te zijn van je stem, terwijl er nog zo veel kan veranderen. Ik zie mensen hier al stellen dat het GL/PVDA wordt terwijl we nog niet eens weten hoe die samenwerking er uit komt te zien.

 

The successful YouTubers from De Bankzitters want to go to the Eurovision Song Contest. They announced that on Tuesday during a press conference. Additionally, they will do a large interactive show in the Afas in Amsterdam.

De Bankzitters consist of YouTubers Milo ter Reegen, Koen van Heest, Robbie van de Graaf, Raoul de Graaf and Matthyas het Lam. They say they've been following Eurovision for years and that they want to make a serious attempt to represent the Netherlands in Malmö in 2024. On 13 January 2024 they will give a large show in the Afas in Amsterdam and they also want to show a preview of their submitted song there.

De Bankzitters previously released various successful songs, including "Je blik richting mij" with which they claimed the #1 position in the Spotify Charts in 2022 with more than 22.8 million streams. They also had three songs last year in the Top 2000.

A selection commission comprising among others Cornald Maas chooses from all submissions which act goes to Eurovision. Nothing is known yet about other submissions.

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