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I don't know if you're referring to Gaza or Israel on October 7th, but here's a press conference about the burned bodies.

https://youtu.be/SoTItPHa6mw?si=zPYvRhDoj1D-nwSB

You understand what you're saying right.

This was a big media press conference, and the presenter. The presenter, was Dr. Chen Kugel. This was a slide on his own presentation. Do you understand?

Boom:

https://youtu.be/SoTItPHa6mw?si=zPYvRhDoj1D-nwSB

Video of the actual press conference.

Please relent, it's giving me a headache.

He does address all the scans, the metal wire in the photo, right there, direct quotes from him too I should have led with this. Around minute 6 is when the images posted come up.

Please watch the video, please please I feel like I'm going insane. I should have led with it but I didn't know there was video of the whole press conference.

Well look.

If this were any other country in Europe or the US, no one would be questioning the doctors, the first responders, and news outlets who report their claims. Because ultimately, that's what's going on here.

If you acknowledge that this is an unconventional response to such overwhelming proof, I will reserve my pure bewilderment.

And if you're still questioning the Metal wire, yes, it's in the Media Line report. Check the scanned image. It's literally right there, bottom right of the scan you can see the metal loop, and follow it around the bodies.

Do you want the Telegram archive? I have access to 2. One that shows live killings, as corroborated by the BBC, NYT, who were shown the same footage at a screening in Israel, and one that shows images and CCTV uploaded by first responders.

Actually, it's not embellished at all, in fact, if you've seen the archives, most reports under-sell the atrocities. You have to wonder why both The Media Line and The Guardian were at the same press conference, yet The Media Line chose to show the picture with the metal wire.

It's because The Media Line clearly has an agenda to garner an emotional response from its audience?

That can certainly be true.

Another point of view is that sources like The Guardian are irresponsible for not showing the images when many people are accusing Israel of embellishment.

Yes there is a picture and there is a metal wire there and there are more, multitudes more.

There are trucks filled with burnt bodies, there's images of a burnt child running and falling. There's videos of smoke still rising from the bodies as first responders reach the scenes.

But you know, if you want more, here you go.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67165128

https://www.haaretz.com/0000018b-3313-dff1-a5eb-ffffee6f0000

Now you have BBC who corroborates the metal wire, and Haaretz that describes the beheaded babies as accurate, both well known and trusted sources.

If you actually want the archive with the first responder telegram that corroborates all this too I can PM it also.

The allegation of victims tied together and set on fire is absolutely true. I saw the images, and here is an article with it.

https://themedialine.org/top-stories/evidence-on-display-at-israels-forensic-pathology-center-confirms-hamas-atrocities/

This article is corroborated by The Guardian, who was at the same press conference, but chose not to post that picture, but a couple other ones.

I saw another image of this mother and child as seen at the scene of the crime too in an archive curated by first responders at the scene.

Many, many of the victims were burned alive.

Edit: Haaretz was probably at the press conference too.

Here's a PBS video https://youtu.be/jRccpmfQrEE?si=lv3pfejLk1n9E7sg

It's probably a lot more than 40 in various states of intentional or indirect dismemberment, burnings, decapitations, or complete disintegration to the point where only teeth remain.

There are also various archives with have images and videos corroborated by this report and other news outlets, like Haaretz, NYT, the Guardian, and others.

EDIT: Ah this was about Palestinian burned bodies not Israeli, my apologies.

They have an official app LOL. You have to get it from their telegram. (I wouldn't do it tbh)

Some of the sources I wanted to sub to but could never afford it are TIME magazine and The Atlantic.

WSJ I don't believe gives all it's articles to Apple. Could be wrong.

I wish the NYT was still in there, but they pulled out a while back.

I think The Guardian is in there though.

Let it be noted that this is an opinion article.

Editorials and Opinion pieces do contribute to social discourse regarding news, and may be correct, but unlike their normal news, they can say whatever they want about the news from the authors they hire.

Opinion pieces allow news sources to use sensationalist and inflammatory articles to drive engagement without harming their credibility, because of that giant OPINION label.

NYT and WSJ's editorials and opinion pieces tend to be quite left and quite right leaning respectfully, to an almost satirical level. In my opinion, the WSJ's comment section under its editorials are much worse.

I'm not disparaging the article in any way, just saying for those that may not already know.

A PBS poll recently showed that the divide on Israel-Palestine is 60-ish% in favor, but for the youth its split 48% for Israel and 52% for Palestine. That is quite the even split.

This has got to be one of the most divisive issues among people my age, which is ages 18-25.

Holy shit, that's a big stamp of the foot. That's the first country to ban Pro-Palestinian demonstrations isn't it?