Impassionata

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His decision deprived the American people of justice.

His old mind was not up to the task of being the chief justice of the Supreme Court.

The only thing that can restore the legitimacy of the courts is the forced retirement of everyone over 60.

[–] Impassionata 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Wow, you managed to lose me in the first 12 words even though I think I vehemently agree with your politics and your point.

I think you can do better than this empty posturing.

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New Community on Politics (self.progressivepolitics)
 

Hello,

I'm starting a politics community devoted to sorting through the mess of discordant incoherent discourse in the wake of the fascism.

Rather than report on the news as it happens, this is a discussion forum intended to provide a foundational grounding and trim some of the confusing elements from play more directly.

If you were upset that people were covering the overtly expansionist nature of Trump/Trumpism because you think he's just 'blustering,' this community is not for you.

Here's my starting position on the nature of the movement of the present rightwing in the United States. https://lemmy.world/post/24284267

Not every person who voted Trump is a fascist. The more people who are calling it what it is, the better.

 

Ultimately, Trumpism must be called fascism for this simple reason:

As Ellul posits in "The Victory of Hitler," the military-industrial complex will always pose the threat of holocaust. Mass industrial processing of human beings is no different than the mass processing of cattle.

So long as there exists a genocidal impulse in human nature, that impulse will present itself in politics. When it does, it will follow certain known pathways.

  • A strongman
  • Lugenpresse, in our time "fake news"
  • Xenophobic rhetoric
  • Dehumanizing rhetoric
  • Glorification of violence
  • Expansionism
  • A contempt for the rule of law and democratic norms and processes

There is no reason to believe that Trump or the movement behind Trump will not turn on the ovens.


Why has this instance of fascism been especially difficult to pin down? There are a variety of reasons

  • An aging electorate slowly boiled in a pot of its own rancid partisanship
  • Aging politicians unable to hold Trump accountable in a series of poor judgment calls
  • A press which attempts to cater to middle points of view which are incoherent

These are on top of the already known propensity of moderates to look away from the things they find frightening. This can no longer be an option for those moderates. You know who they are.

But the particulars of this movement's intellectual flow yield an unusual confluence: the temporary alignment of three categories of the electorate:

  1. the "tech right," a bunch of easily duped moderates
  2. Old guard Republicans who are set in their distrust of Democrats
  3. New populist Republicans

Not every person who voted Trump is a fascist and I think it's safe to say that most are not fascists.

Many of the easily duped moderates on Twitter are quasi-fascist, for instance: they fall into the expansionist spell in a fit of young naive imperialism, but imagine a peaceful conquest in which the colonized simply vote to join the US. This is the height of their delusion.

But delusion is the stuff by which fascism is fabricated. The strongman is made into a god who can do no wrong.

When that strongman becomes detached completely from reality, arguably due to his age and temperament, so too do his followers. This fascist death spiral is documented elsewhere; suffice it to say that there is inherent dysfunction and incompetence to authoritarianism and the masses who believe in supermen are morons.

In any case, to understand contemporary American fascism, it's necessary to understand its philosophy in this descriptive sense.


Postmodern

Infused with a cynicism of media, betrayed by the old Republican guard in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, this generation of political discourse lived in the shadow of the 9/11 conspiracies. Distrust in government was already high. Distrust in journalism was already high.

The narrative of the War On Terror was of the government misleading the people of the United States into war, with the help of the media.

This narrative was so strong that Trump's withdrawal from Afghanistan led many to proudly boast that Trump was the anti-war candidate. Trump's many warmongering aggressive actions could do nothing to defuse this argument. Nor could the straightforward observation that Russia's invasion of Ukraine was not Biden's choice.

Now Trump threatens to put soldiers in Panama. And there aren't enough thinkers left in the "tech right", the old guard Republicans, or the populist Republicans to notice this contradiction. (And if you're about to be on me about taking Trump at his word, shut the fuck up ya moderate scum.)

Broadly speaking, Trump's supporters were introduced to postmodernism through Jordan Peterson's promulgation of the term. Whether or not they intended to, they became more postmodern in their outlook as a result of familiarity with Peterson's fearmongering about "international postmodern marxism."

It's worth noting that Peterson, too, is not a fascist. Though he shares the habit of targeting young men for indoctrination in his preferred school of thought with Steve Bannon, Peterson is not a xenophobe nor a violent expansionist, just an unwitting agent of the fascist demiurge.

The height of postmodern thinking about Trumpism came from a cartoonist named Scott Adams, who made the accurate observation, the postmodern observation, that what would happen in Trump's first term would look like "two movies on one screen."

Scott Adams is too broken a mind to be a fascist. He couldn't even notice that if there are two contradictory stories, one of them must necessarily be false; that if there's a strongman boomer advocating for violence everywhere and spreading delusions, then the people who live in those delusions will live in a separate delusional reality.

My point, though, is that postmodernist dissection of narrative helped fuel denialism to greater heights of dizzying moderate stupidity.

Ur-Marxist

I hope to be recognized as one of the first to point out that Rush Limbaugh made an entire generation of Republican thinkers into Marxists. The ur-Marxism of the present populist Right is anti-Elite in precisely the way Marx describes. Arguably the assassination by Luigi Mangione, a denizen of Musk's twitter, is the class warfare Trump brought to bear.

Rush Limbaugh helped seed the fascism, but for him poking leftists just seemed fun and the 90s leftists arguably deserved the criticism, if not the end of the Fairness Doctrine.

But what Limbaugh did as the Cold War ended was read the doctrine of the Cold War's enemies: Marx. And he read Marx on air and performed this rhetorical incision: what if the elites weren't rich people, but were, in fact, Hollywood, Universities, and Journalism?

This became the rhetorical fashion of Fox News.

It becomes comical, then, that certain "tech right" thinkers believe they independently reinvented this observation.

The populism of the Right is marxist. Right down to "Rich Men North of Richmond."

It's just that they can't call it that because that would offend boomer ideological sensibilities.

Neo-Fascism

The actual fascists, who are, it's true, few in number comparatively (though their numbers did grow in this time period) operated in a hostile environment skillfully and without hesitation. Their ability to reflect on prior eras of fascism made them neo-fascists: informed by some of the previous failures of their white supremacist ideology to take hold.

They know their views are unpopular. When they're attempting to infiltrate a space, they test the water with letting their mask slip. When preying on communities with postmodernism, they plant a seed of doubt. They equivocate.


Boomer inaction with regard to the fascism of the present day has become a very great threat.

[–] Impassionata 0 points 1 week ago

not everything he says is indicative of what he does.

That's stupid!

You haven't actually been paying attention. Every single time he says something, he's tried to do it.

The declaration of the possibility of the use of military force in Panama has to be taken at face value. Don't be a fucking moron.

[–] Impassionata -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Your theory of attention management is stupid and bad.

[–] Impassionata 0 points 1 week ago

That's so fucking stupid! They're covering it because it's news!

[–] Impassionata 2 points 2 weeks ago

You are fundamentally incorrect.

[–] Impassionata -4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

He wants to make it his stupid things like “Gulf of America” instead of “Gulf of Mexico” take up that spot. Not his insane pick for departments, not his plans for cutting social security, etc.

This might be hard for you to hear, but you can't control what other people focus on and your strategy is stupid and bad.

Nothing will stop people from disregarding the people who raise hell. Raise hell anyway.

[–] Impassionata 30 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

It's not a stunt, it's total megalomania and you are falling for the coping tactic of pretending he's not serious in his literal statement to expand the borders of the US north and south.

[–] Impassionata 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

All media/journalism is struggling to make ends meet and no one in (real) media wants Trump to be in power. This cynical theory of the media is fucking stupid.

 

Just because you are following these guidelines doesn't mean you are participating in fair play, and just because you break one of these guidelines doesn't mean you're in the wrong.

Because (for instance) sometimes the technically correct point is the salient point.

 

One of the problems of our political times is this confusion about ceremony.

The dissident right, comprising the portion of the 'right' literate enough to participate in discourse and the chief driver in 'extremely online' politics through their stalwart refusal to believe that they had been duped into supporting or providing cover for a fascist movement, often relies on this deference to simulacrum as a means of negating allegations that January 6th was, for instance, an insurrectionary act.

Such a person -- and there are many -- has become sufficiently confused by the 'artificial' nature of the narrative implanted within the protestor so as to somehow ignore what that narrative induced said individual to do.

Baudrillard is popular among these types. They are not truly illiterate. They can actually see the distortion of the spectacular mirage! They are markedly anti-consumerist.

But there are no LARPs. There are only Augmented Reality Games.

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Music Thread (self.otherworldly)
submitted 2 years ago by Impassionata to c/otherworldly
 

Behold, One Voice From Four: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkOt10eJ7rQ

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Hello Satanists (self.thesatanictemple)
 

I'm advertising a community, https://lemmy.world/c/otherworldly, for those of certain mindsets about spirituality and the intersection of spirituality and politics. If any are familiar with /r/sorceryofthespectacle, I plan to continue that vibe.

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I saw a Phoenix in the Sky (self.otherworldly)
submitted 2 years ago by Impassionata to c/otherworldly
 

Last I saw it was headed East.

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