OK, so you are saying the world started out "broken"? I guess it'd be best if a vacuum decay event just instantly wiped out humanity at the cradle in that case.
HalfSalesman
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I don't view Harris as a fascist and I more or less agree with Womble.
That's not what I said. I had a strategy, it was to put my energy into an election outcome that would prevent the fascist from winning. I don't view Kamala Harris as a fascist like you seem to, shes at worst a typical neo-liberal. I'd rather fight against a neo-liberal than a fascist. She lost, and all available non-passive options are now awful and I am not motivated to do much other than openly hate almost everyone even slightly responsible in this outcome.
Available strategies now include: Hunker down and survive an indeterminate number of years, flee the country, or die in a doomed rebellion. All knowing the earth is cooked at every corner anyway so who gives a flying fuck.
I'm not doing that last strategy, you can have fun getting shot in the street by fascists if you want. I'm going to just try my best to not die.
Yes you do. You support him via advocating for a completely ass backwards promotion of third party voting.
If a third party is to be even remotely viable in FPTP, you don't fucking start with the presidency.
You can't magically drum up sufficient support for a candidate to win the fucking presidency with zero/near zero seats in congress or the senate.
Having a strategy doesn't guarantee ideal outcomes. It also clearly doesn't guarantee you avoid the worst ones either. We were never inevitably going to the promised land. The key was to maximize good and minimize bad. We've maximized bad.
It doesn't matter that much anymore. I'm not advocating we continue any strategy because I think we're doomed now. We're on a sinking ship and you are arguing over whether we can swim across the entire ocean to safety.
The new goal is to not die due to a fascist take over the United States. A lot of us are about to fail that. Maybe me, maybe you. We'll see in 4 years.
No its not. That doesn't even make any sense. Moral compromise has been a constant of human civilization.
They weren't completely ignored by Harris. She could have done a lot more (in particular to distance herself from Biden), but she did try to appeal to them at least once.
The problem is that even doing that wasn't going to help much because the propaganda campaign to paint her as the pro-genocide candidate was already floating around enough that low information tik tok voters were likely nudged primarily against her.
Regardless, if my family was being butchered in that situation IDK how I'd react but I know the rational decision was still to prevent the fascist that actively hates Palestinians from winning.
But obviously voters are not rational.
All leftists absolutely did not all vote for Harris. I've literally seen "A vote for Harris is a vote for genocide" propaganda spread around with posters/banners. And that shit almost certainly moved fence sitters.
We can blame multiple groups at the same time. Its just left accelerationists and protest voters/non-voters are legitimately stupid and evil and yet are more likely to start arguments on Lemmy because they're self righteous and think they actually have the big brains or whatever.
Neolibs/Centrists think they'll be fine and are going to get the bag regardless (thinking the fascists wont come for them) and the apolitical types don't even want to engage because they're not paying attention anyway nor want to. They don't engage.
The blame is equal. Its just it gets louder between left leaning people because of the frustration.
And now the genocide will get worse.
We had multiple non-Trump candidates
Do you understand how first past the post works?
"trying to make a better world"
What the fuck are you talking about how is Trump winning enabling us to make a better world? Its done the fucking opposite. Are you actually this delusional?
Virtue doesn't matter. Consequences do.
I also discount your political takes because it has lead us to doom.