Filthmontane

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[–] Filthmontane 1 points 2 months ago (9 children)

They are the leftist party available.

[–] Filthmontane 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're citing a capitalist finance website to prove your point about socialism. You seem to be confused between social democracy and democratic socialism. I understand because they seem so similar that they must be basically the same thing, right? Nope.

The Nordic model is a form of social democracy. They take many of the benefits that socialism provides and builds them into a capitalist economy. Democratic socialism is an actual form of a worker owned an operated economy.

If you're ever in doubt, ask the question, "who owns the means of production?" If the answer is huge megacorporations and wealthy billionaires, then it's a capitalist economy. If the answer is the working class, it's socialist.

[–] Filthmontane 1 points 2 months ago (11 children)

Well I don't see nearly as much ballot access from the PSL or any other minor party. Maybe we should make a new party that'll lose popularity to the next one in 5 years. No party will ever be leftist enough for leftists in this country and that pretentious mindset will keep us weak forever.

[–] Filthmontane 1 points 2 months ago

I didn't say that I did think that. What I do think is that leftists should leverage the biggest third party that's the closest to representing their core values into the party that they want. It has nothing to do with Jill Stein and more to do with uniting under one generalized leftist party instead of constantly fracturing into weaker more specific parties.

[–] Filthmontane 1 points 2 months ago (13 children)

It's that kind of attitude that weakens the left. If every leftist were involved with the greens, we could create a truly revolutionary party.

[–] Filthmontane -4 points 2 months ago (19 children)

Why can't we just vote for the biggest leftist party with the most ballot access? Ya know, the green party

[–] Filthmontane 1 points 2 months ago

Beneath the surface of every great nation's collapse is US Interference

[–] Filthmontane 1 points 2 months ago

I agree prison labor is just a roundabout way of getting away with slave labor and it shouldn't be done. That being said, China has less slaves than the US and treats them half as badly.

[–] Filthmontane 2 points 2 months ago

The US has destroyed every socialist country in history that didn't have a strong enough military to fight them off

[–] Filthmontane 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

None of those are socialist countries. They're all capitalist

[–] Filthmontane 24 points 3 months ago (16 children)

Russia devolved into capitalism. Funding a military is incredibly expensive and necessary when a communist country wants to exist in a world with the United States. This creates a militant economy that must be centrally governed to coordinate this military might. True democratic socialism is impossible as long as the United States exists as an imperialist force.

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