DarkFuture

Just saying, the nation has sunk lower, but I don’t know that’s a lot lower than where we were when we were kids.

Definitely disagree. A convicted felon and adjudicated rapist who incited an insurrection against our government, illegally attempted to overturn an election, fumbled his response to the greatest American crisis since WW2, removed women's rights, and attempts to divide Americans whenever his mouth opens is about to be sworn in as our leader.

Eh. I've read about multiple audits of NordVPN. All the data available suggests NordVPN is highly secure. And I don't entertain conspiracy theories so I'm just going to stick with the data available.

So...piece of shit?

The co-founder and CEO of Proton?

Many, many millions of dollars.

Explanation?

Prostrating themselves to an anti-intellectual felon rapist.

All the money in the world, but they're still just little bitches.

I don't want to be a Debbie Downer here, but the reality is humanity isn't up to the task of addressing climate change. We aren't going to address this issue in time, if at all. There are too many dumb humans to make the political change possible to effectively address this issue before it's too late, if it isn't already.

We're cooked. Pun entirely intended.

I mean, North Korea exists. But yeah, Americans are extremely propagandized.

People would literally rather support a party that doesn’t align with their views.

Wow. They must be dumbfucks.

Would’ve needed a better candidate and a party that actually listens to criticism

Liberals (and independents) complained that Biden was too old (despite Trump being equally old) and it became a serious issue and they replaced him with a younger candidate. That's called listening to criticism.

You can’t pin this one on us

Not retroactively. But every single 3rd party voter filled out their ballots not knowing if they were going to make the difference or not. Because some elections have come a lot closer than this one and 3rd party voters did make the difference. It's not particularly meaningful to me that you point out it wasn't your fault after the fact, when you didn't know whether it would be your fault or not at the time. That's like a kid admitting he threw the kitchen knife at his sister but it didn't hit her so everything is totally fine and the subject can be closed.

The fact remains that it's patently stupid to vote for a 3rd party presidential candidate because we are NOWHERE NEAR a 3rd party winning a presidential election. I mean the 3rd party candidate with the most votes only got half of a single percentage of the total votes. And that was magician Jill Stein, who disappears into thin air for years at a time and magically reappears a couple months out from every election.

But that doesn't change my comment.

First of all, 3rd party voters could make the difference in any given election because multiple elections have been much closer than this one. They had no idea whether they were going to make the difference or not when they filled out their ballots.

Secondly, many, if not most, of those 3rd party voters REALLY didn't want Trump, but they also wanted a 3rd party canidate more than Harris. Now they get Trump, their least favorite pick. And again, they filled out their ballots not knowing if they were going to be responsible for that happening or not.

Also, while it didn't matter overall, at least Wisconsin would have swung Harris if she got the majority of 3rd party voters, not even all of them. So it did matter in some states, even though probably not in enough.

But the point is they COULD have made the difference and for all they knew at the time were making the difference because in other elections 3rd party votes have made the difference. If anything, it not mattering in this election is just going to embolden them to vote 3rd party again in another election where we find out afterward that it really would have made the difference.

And it's not like there's any reality at all where their 3rd party candidate could have won, so why take that massive gamble? The bottom line is that we are NOWHERE NEAR a 3rd party winning a presidential election, so it's patently stupid to vote 3rd party in a presidential election. I mean the 3rd party candidate with the most votes only got half of a single percentage of the total votes. And that was magician Jill Stein, who disappears into thin air for years at a time and magically reappears a couple months out from every election.

I mean Americans oversaw the transfer of power to fascists.

Sure Biden/Kamala should be issuing a warning, although they already have, many times. But the situation we find ourselves in is squarely on Americans.