Cogency

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[–] Cogency 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

They're gonna happen eventually if nothing improves. There's a breaking point to this all that we are on a collision course with.

They wouldnt be trying to throw trans people, women's rights, immigrants etc. under the bus so hard if they weren't desperate for the distraction. Genocide is the last gasp of empires as they fail. And we will fall if trump wins or further damages democracy.

[–] Cogency 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (29 children)

The Newcastle method is not seen as a scientific basis for dismissal on its own.

98% of the data was dismissed in the synthesis and was not used to reach the conclusion that there wasn't enough scientific evidence to support transition when 98% of the science says that is wrong.

And every scientific paper is expected to be comprehensive on its subject matter and/or thesis.

[–] Cogency 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (31 children)

Again I've written these reports. It is absolutely not common practice to disclude data without scientific reason and analysis. It is explicitly taught not to do it that way in college. And it is not scientific to do that without a statistical threshold and confidence analysis of your reasoning.

[–] Cogency 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (33 children)

"You can of course. Statistics are not required to explain why a self selective Facebook poll is low quality while a multi centre 5 year study with followup and compartor is of a much higher quality".

That's wrong when you are trying to be scientifically correct. A science paper without that math isn't science my dude. And comparing trans healthcare data to Facebook polls is ridiculous

[–] Cogency 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (35 children)

You can't remove a study from a scientific paper without having statistical analysis to back it up. Each of those removed studies all had a statistical analysis of how confident they remained in their data even with the gaps. Because there aren't completed 100% studies in science it just doesn't happen so you use the data you have and test it for a confidence value you obtain using statistics. And the idea that some trans people don't make it to the completion of a study due to personal reasons or even suicide isn't that rare. Not using 98% of the data because of that would be stupid.

[–] Cogency 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (37 children)

No it's not. None of the dismissals are statistically/ scientifically supported, and the data they present is blurbed and incompletely presented in a way that isn't inclusive of what those studies actually say.

[–] Cogency 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (39 children)

Putting 98% of the relevant available data in a supplementary table like 4 is not including the data.

[–] Cogency 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (41 children)

Read it. Their only inclusion in the report is to half explain why the were discluded, exactly what I said. Most of the dismissals are unscientific, not supported by a statistical analysis of why it was discluded. Data doesn't become unreliable just because it is incomplete.

That report is absolutely rife with white washing and selection bias, I'd expect a scientific review of trans literature and studies to be a book at this point not 32 pages dismissing 98% of the data. It's frankly insulting to anyone that's read or written any number of scientific studies.

[–] Cogency 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (43 children)

So you don't know what you are talking about. Gotcha.

Synthesis reports in a scientific study when presenting data, are the parts of the report where you explain why you are dismissing data, so in this case ~98% of the data or studies. So what you just said is ~98% of the data was included in the synthesis report. that's not inclusion of the data. That's selective inclusion to support a conclusion. A normal scientific study can't dismiss 98% of available data. That reveals bias.

[–] Cogency 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (45 children)

That's not what synthesis means. I've written synthesis reports before and the data you include from those reports once you have dismissed them as inaccurate, it is an entirely selective process of whatever you want to include from them. We even have a phrase for it in law, Summarily dismissed.

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