Cogency

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[–] Cogency 1 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Exactly which is why the Ottawa whatever standard is not sufficient to discard a study. You have to do more.

[–] Cogency 1 points 8 months ago (5 children)

But not actually proof of bias.

[–] Cogency 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (7 children)

It's not an indicator of bias, no causal study has been done to show that there is a relationship between bias and the Newcastle Ottawa scale

[–] Cogency 1 points 8 months ago (9 children)
[–] Cogency 1 points 8 months ago (11 children)

Again that's a joke to do that.

[–] Cogency 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (13 children)

No the Cass report is just misusing the scale. It's not a disqualifying tool and the scale still has uses which just means further analysis into the subject matter. Which is why the Cass report needed to be books longer, it's not comprehensive.

[–] Cogency 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (15 children)

Lol first sign that you might actually be human.

And it has already been widely criticized before that's why there was the parachute joke report. Hence it is already the brunt of jokes to use that scoring scale.

[–] Cogency 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (17 children)

I don't need to, it is already happening within the scientific community of which I am merely a part.

[–] Cogency 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (19 children)

Goal posts haven't moved and I've already pointed out a dozen of so methodological flaws around the Cass report that you are choosing to ignore.

That's on you

[–] Cogency 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (21 children)

98% of the data was discarded

No I'm just explaining the process and why it isn't complete yet. Or even valid yet

And show me that the Cochrane library ever discarded a study using the criteria even once yet alone with the same level as the Cass report and I'll write them

For something that illustrates the problem with the Cass report read https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC300808/

[–] Cogency 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (23 children)

98% of the data could be summarized in one sentence. Trans healthcare and hrt works. 98% of the data comes to that conclusion with vast consensus across multi disciplines and fields comes to that conclusion and that was ignored. 98% of the data was discarded. Most of those studies discarded already had a statistical analysis backing up their efficacy while the Cass report doesn't. Nor does the Cass report include a nearly mandatory implicit bias report.

Those peer reviews are most likely selected and not randomized selections or contestations as most peer reviews are required to be, they are ok for initial release irc. But it is an outgoing process that doesn't have an endpoint. They were most likely provided prior to release and the normal peer review process won't be completed for years to undo the damage. But it is not considered peer reviewed yet.

Again you have not proven that the new castle Ottawa scale has any efficacy or scientific merit as a disqualifying tool No one has as far as I know.

[–] Cogency 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (25 children)

And yet you have no scientific reason other than an ad hominem fallacy with the author with which to dismiss the criticism with. That like the Cass report are not scientifically sufficient reasons to disclude the criticism or the data respectively.

And I can garuntee you that the Cass report was not peer reviewed like all of the studies they dismissed were because it would have been torn apart. That's the real litmus test of scientific debate.

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