Chriskmee

Of course I know what hedge funds are, and that people manage them. It's all about actively buying and selling stocks, bonds, and options.

You can call it a terrible retirement vehicle if you want, but it's literally how the middle class is able to retire. From 401k, to Roth IRA, to other much every other retirement account available to the middle class, it's based on stocks, and it's worked well for a ton of people.

Why do you think stock has value? It's because it's a piece of ownership of the company. Yes it's a way for the company to get some capital, but it's also the way for private company owners to cash in on their company being successful.

Why is being paid in ownership insane? It's directly tied to the performance of the company, if the company does well the stock does well, and it's incentive to drive the company in the right direction to reward employees of all levels with stock.

It's insane to tax this ownership, it's not worth the amount it looks like. If an owner had to sell their stock, the stock value would plummet not only because of the huge uptick in supply of stock available to trade, but because the person running the company now has little to no stake in the success of the company.

You know who this also screws over? All the middle class people trying to retire on their stock values going up. You tax wealth, stock values will plummet, and there goes the middle class retirement, no thanks!

Most of the wealth these billionaires have is ownership in their own companies, to take away that ownership because it's worth too much according to the stock market is insane

Nobody is actually suggesting income tax brackets here, they are suggesting taxing loans and taxing wealth. The things being suggested here have never been done, and yes they are radical because nobody had been crazy enough to implement these ideas ever in the whole history of the US.

Perfect, thanks for the confirmation.

It is radical though, especially given the context.

Thanks for finally admitting it!

Just to tie this all up, say "Ok, bootlicker" again if you know I'm not one and you were just projecting your desires.

I mean we are talking about a US issue, so yeah it does matter what the US thinks on US issues, and it really doesn't matter what the rest of the world thinks.

There aren't many countries out there who don't have a history of that stuff, I don't see why the issues of the past matter at all in this scenario.

Say "Ok, bootlicker" if your desire in life is to lick as many boots as possible.

Radical according to basically the whole country of the USA.

Still projecting I see. What's your fascination with licking boots?

You realize your ideas that are also being suggested by most people here are radical, right? Radical left is a thing, and this place is overflowing with it.

It's one thing to suggest doing something about the cuts, but most here don't think that's nearly enough, proposing literal theft and preventing movement outside the country. I would argue it's just as insane here as it is in far right circles, just a different kind of insane.