BonfireOvDreams

So basically, live and let destroy? You hold no one to any moral standard? I don't have any desire to hate anyone. What I do think however is that we've set the moral bar way, way too low in modern society. More importantly, even if I am a hateful person, that does not justify inaction. Your framing this issue around a superiority complex helps this cause zero percent if not negative. It's definitely less than individual choices.

Shame has value in discourse, especially at it relates to collective concerns for others. You know this. You demonstrated it slightly higher up in the comments by calling me out. You made a judgement yourself. I just think your 'live and let destroy' ideas are clearly worse than my 'you suck if you don't address climate change' ideas.

Edit: damn y'all, I guess I don't tolerate people who behave in a manner that is intolerant of all known conscious life. Me bad. 🤷‍♂️ I should seek help 🤷‍♂️

As long as you don't buy an animal, no moral wrong in having a preference in appearance. Adopt and rescue.

So you are concerned with climate change but would change nothing about your behavior to respond to it, unless you're forced to? But also, you probably hope someone does force you? Where's your agency? I don't know how to tell you this, but this isn't me telling you how to live your life, this is me explaining that you don't even live in accordance with your own values. You are not even being your authentic self. Are you sure you actually care? I'm unconvinced.

Sure, individual changes will not make nearly enough of a statistical difference. Lack of change in response to reality is however, morally abhorrent. Don't be morally abhorrent 🤷 Maybe your actions will even have an affect on other people, who while also individually don't make a statistical difference, make more than just you, and also makes fewer people surrounding you less morally abhorrent. You don't need a bunch of policy makers to tell you what is right and wrong. You're an adult. Do the right thing.

Vegan here. I don't know any conservative vegans, except for a single YouTuber. From an anti-oppression perspective, being on the right doesn't really make sense for veganism. The right will perpetually define the needless taking of conscious life as personal choice as if the choice itself is morally relevant. Anyway, perhaps you live in an area with lots of repubs and neolibs?

Definitely helps tho 👀

Meat fibers

Well I'm glad you've given up on making bad faith arguments and realized you don't have any good ones. At least everyone who reads this can see how foolish you look.

And that makes it not arbitrary...how?

if needed

It literally took your first two words to make your entire perspective on the matter worthless.

Uh, Vegan here. Fish suffer. Fishing is depleting the ocean and creating loads of plastic pollution via fishing nets. Stop eating fish. Do you see how you're like, totally wrong?