BonfireOvDreams

joined 1 year ago
[–] BonfireOvDreams 1 points 1 year ago

Hey, nobody said he was a wholly good person. Dude's going to jail for a reason.

[–] BonfireOvDreams 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Vitamin B12, C, D, calcium, & omega 3 will for sure not be nutritionally met.

[–] BonfireOvDreams 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Veganism is not strictly a dietary choice. Look into ethical veganism. In the UK, Ethical Vegans are a legally protected class. I understand they are not legally protected in America - this does not require me to change my position at all. I made it clear that it's my opinion, and I presented how I would personally feel to be in his position and what I might consider just to have that ethical belief respected.

[–] BonfireOvDreams 11 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Likely yes, but bread can have animal product in it. In any case it is not nutritionally complete.

[–] BonfireOvDreams 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I support the right to abstain from putting murdered or otherwise non-consenting conscious beings bodily fluid inside your body, irrespective of person. No need to mischaracterize.

[–] BonfireOvDreams 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Admittedly if he held a religion that he claimed required meat consumption I would be in favor of not accommodating him. Thankfully, no major religion does this, because as it turns out in trying to seek ethical practice, they all arrive at the idea that abstaining from killing conscious beings is morally good.

[–] BonfireOvDreams 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Well homie I've got evidence that suggests he is and you have none that says he isn't so I'm just going to work with that.

[–] BonfireOvDreams -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

The equivalency I've provided is equivalent. If animals were moral agents with bank accounts he may have done the same to them while still respecting their bodily autonomy. But they are just moral subjects with no bank accounts, so I'm only going to make equivalent what is certain. I don't think you can certainly say he respects non-human animals more than humans.

[–] BonfireOvDreams -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Ironic he can respect animals more than people

He doesn't eat humans or variations of incarcerated pregnant ladies' nonconsensually acquired breast milk. He respects them at least the same actually.

[–] BonfireOvDreams 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

He has been Vegan since at least April 2021. He was not arrested until December 2022. It's not a circus show. The dude's ethical beliefs in regards to Veganism are not in question. They need to be respected.

[–] BonfireOvDreams 84 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (127 children)

He is Vegan. Irrespective of how we feel about what he did, the failure to address his core ethical beliefs is completely unacceptable. If his belief was rooted in ideas of a higher being or afterlife, everyone would acknowledge how fucked up it is. Not that I'm planning on going to jail anytime soon, but if I could not be able to abide by that daily practice of my life it would be incredibly distressing. Unless he is doing it for environmental reasons (I don't know) he likely seeks total animal liberation, and you're going to force feed him stolen animal secretions? Coproducts of dead baby cows, blended up chicks, and beings bred into painful bodies? The alternative is malnutrition? I would highly consider Jainism or Sikhism on this fact alone. Fuck you if you think he should be forced to go against these ethical beliefs. It is 100% a human rights violation IMO.

[–] BonfireOvDreams 0 points 1 year ago

The non human animal thing is about the confusing attitudes & behaviors humans have towards them, and how they are unequally applied based on arbitrary traits or nebulous concepts. In other words, in consideration of those individuals who desire to not be used or exploited, why everyone currently exploiting them needs to consider changing those attitudes & behaviors.

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