Anemia

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[โ€“] Anemia 1 points 1 year ago
[โ€“] Anemia 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Even if I agreed with you, voting is still important. We need to do what we can in the current situation even if you don't think it is the full solution.

What type of action do you propose instead?

[โ€“] Anemia 2 points 1 year ago (7 children)

You didn't. My point was more that voting isn't enough. Just because there are worse people, that doesn't mean that we are free of blame. The entire west is living very unsustainable lifestyles. So we both need to stop the big polluters by voting and we also need to do our own part to strive towards reaching sustainability.

[โ€“] Anemia 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I didn't even mention capitalism? Are you responding to the wrong person? My argument is that people ought to vote for the more environmental option.

[โ€“] Anemia 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Okay, I would argue that the guy in the video is extremely biased. I don't know how you would determine bias in a person, but I think that a clear indication is to not caveat any of the cited sources with their various flaws in methodology and only show studies "in your favour" assuming they don't all show that. I looked at criticism towards the videos claims by Nutrivore criticism. I read half of the critique but only doublechecked a couple of the studies that i could access.

If you disagree with my assessment that the video is very biased either put forth your own definition of bias or I could pick a couple of the (in my opinion) biased claims and we can talk about those.

[โ€“] Anemia 2 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I don't mind arguing (in fact i really like arguing) and I also disagree with most of your points. That said however If I am to argue then I don't want to do massive walls of text and rather pick a single well defined point. So if you want to do that as well then put forward a single point which you feel strongly about and I'll say if I disagree or not (alternatively I could pick something from your text, I just wouldn't want to feel like I've picked your weakest point).

[โ€“] Anemia 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah I mean I agree with you. Most people who won't even take basic personal actions like not flying on vacation twice a yeah and not buying a stupid oversized car. If those people were put in the same position as these CEOs you can bet your left buttcheek that they would maximize profits in the exact same way. We need to both take individual action and also hold each other accountable by changing the law and applying social pressure.

[โ€“] Anemia 6 points 1 year ago (9 children)

My take on this (an I'm vegan so there's a possibility of bias) is that most of the mainstream claims such as there being no health downside and a plantbased diet is significantly less harmful for the environment are simply true.

But there is a subset of vegans that for some reason believe they need to justify it further than that who say that plant based diets have some nigh on magical health abilities and they feel so much better etc, pretty much all of that is some form of bs. Just like the idea that humans didn't need to eat meat in the far past due to b12.

All in all, it's an infected debate where vegans/nonvegans just throw false shit out to see what sticks.

[โ€“] Anemia 4 points 1 year ago

I love shakshouka with aubergine that shit's great. Anyway, vegan here and most of the stuff i eat is indian food (a lot of that stuff is vegan or at least vegetarian by default), middle eastern food with baba ganoush/hummus/falafel or east asian foods with tofu or tempeh. I find that just veganizing meatdishes take a bit of skill and fantasy for it not to just become a lackluster version of the thing you already like and are used to.

[โ€“] Anemia 5 points 1 year ago

It's at least not more expensive (maybe unless you live in bumfucknowhere and they won't properly stock beans).

[โ€“] Anemia 11 points 1 year ago (18 children)

It's 100% personal responsibility, it's just that part of that responsibility is to vote/convince others for more systemic change. All the kids just blaming the "biggest 100 companies" while not voting and making no lifestyle changes are just as bad as the people they critizise.

[โ€“] Anemia 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's not a problem with the platform, any online setting that has diverse enough views are going to require that. To get away from them you need to just put out views that basically everyone agrees with, which can be done by either sticking to echochambers or just having absurdly accepted views.

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