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cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/4750716

Human hibernation has made some strides recently. I think a year or so ago a Wired mag article said the only significant unsolved problem is shivering. They have a cocktail of drugs that makes hibernation possible apart from the fact that people shiver at low temps.

If they solve this, I will gladly prefer to be shipped as cargo on a sail boat or airship so long as someone tends to a heart monitor to ensure a few heartbeats per min or whatever is still happening. No more Gestappo airport security, stresses of delayed flights, screaming babies, people eating Camembert cheese within 5 meters of you. You age at like ⅓ the rate in hibernation (or something like that). I’d gladly trade a week of reduced useful lifetime in exchange for a later death (experiencing more of the future than otherwise possible). The idea of being able to easily flip the middle finger to Boeing would also be a nice perk. (#boycottBoeing)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Giving how complex is total anesthesia is applied, the drug applications and 100% monitoring of a specialized medic. Any may that similar technology would be used for something mundane like it.

Maybe only space things, or to store workers in a compact place after the working hours in some dystopi country.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

The most common use of hibernation will be in emergency medicine. Consider how often someone dies because the ambulance could not get them to the ER fast enough. They will be put into hibernation to greatly stretch their time. And because there is an immediate need in life-death situations, hibernation will be developed rapidly. That is, the experimentation phase will go fast.

It’s a good point about anesthesia. I’m not sure if it’ll be comparable to anesthesia or more like tranquilization (e.g. like someone taking a tranquilizer to sleep). Certainly specialists will be needed in the early phases.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This doesn't make sense for anybody with high fixed costs like rent

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I’m not sure how your comment makes sense. Renters must make their rent payment regardless of where they are. Do you mean the long travel time reduces their income? I could see that being a deterrent for a segment of people traveling round-trip who can afford to travel can’t afford to be away from work for long. That has nothing to do with rent but rather a problem of low fixed income. People in that boat would need fast travel assuming they can afford the ticket. When hibernation travel is common the fast travel methods will become more of a luxury and will be priced as such.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Since travel time counts towards time not at home - yes - that means you're wasting rent as well as time off. Half a months worth, for the proposed 1 week per direction being shipped over the Atlantic. Thanks like half of the whole vacation in most cases

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That segment of people will have to decide whether to cut their trip short or to save more to support the trip. The budget option will be the hibernation travel. In a natural market the hibernation travel will have to undercut airfare. I couldn’t predict whether the spread would be more than ~40 hrs×min.wage. OTOH, it may not simply be a natural market at that point since govs will likely start artificially penalizing high-emissions travel. An optimist would predict that people will be working less and get paid more by then. IMO the working less part of that is likely. I think the Henry Ford 40 hr work week will be abandoned in the developed world in the next couple decades.