/kbin meta

kbin is like a month old and has been slammed very recently by a large number of new signups. I think they were migrating to new servers over the past week and likely more improvements are on the way.

I liked kbin more, and I also bought an HD-DVD player.

Oh dear.

No, I don't think it's like HD-DVD vs Blue-Ray. You don't have an industry which has to make the choice between one or the other and a larger industry that buys into one technology or the other for their content.

You have individual users making up their mind based on what software they like more and if they get enough out of what that software offers. If it were HD-DVD vs Bluray then the power would be in the end user's control....but it never was. The more people decide to use a piece of software, the more developers you have developing for that software. The more devs you have the better it gets and the more people you get liking the software and using it. There is room for people choosing to use different pieces of software, and it's made even easier by the fact that they interoperate due to federation.

I have both Bluray and HD-DVD. I have quite a few more Bluray than HD-DVD because of course that's the way the industry went. I had both pretty early on because I knew there would be a time when the industry decided the winner and the loser would go on clearance sales. I picked up a bunch of my HD-DVD collection in those clearance sales. To that industry comparison, I do not have a lemmy account, nor do I want one.

In the end my entire Bluray, HD-DVD, and DVD collection is all digital and on my media server now, along with a lot of streaming stuff. Don't really know how that'll relate to this move in social media platforms.

Yes, they will continue to coexist for the foreseeable future. There's a reason why people choose one or the other since they each have their pros and cons, and the fact that they do federate with each other (even if it can be buggy at times) means people will continue to be able to pick whichever one they prefer without having to lose out on most content from the other.

As for your experiences with federating, you do need to make sure federation is getting triggered. For instance, I created a magazine on kbin.social a few days ago but it was taking forever to show up on lemmy.world (I have accounts on both). I had to specifically search for the magazine URL in the lemmy.world community search before it triggered federating that magazine and created the mirrored community on lemmy. Once I did that, it showed up just fine. From what I've seen, federation of new communities/magazines doesn't happen automatically. It only occurs if someone specifically searches for it by URL in the other software. Hopefully that's a bug and will be fixed at some point.

There's no reason not to use both. I prefer Kbin but using a Lemmy instance with wefwef is pretty good too. I find myself alternating between the two.

I don't care about all this newfangled stuff. My Betamax still works fine.

I haven't notice more problems with kbin to Lemmy federation than with kbin to kbin federation. They both seem to be having problems. I also don't think the hd-dvd and blue-ray comparison is an apt analogy. Maybe it's more like xbox vs playstation. They're platforms rather than technologies (Lemmy and kbin both use the same activity pub technology) and while there are exclusives to each system there's so much overlap that it hardly matters which one you buy from a content point of view

I thought this was going to be a thread debating the merits of the two disc formats, and I'm disappointed that it's not. :(

I know that particular format war didn't last very long, but I wonder if there's anything HD-DVD ended up doing better than Blu-Ray.

As for the actual topic of this thread, I'm not sure if it's the right analogy. Blu-ray and HD-DVD were incompatible with one another, while Kbin and Lemmy are mostly compatible. I'm not entirely sure what to compare it to, maybe Linux vs. BSD?