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Got my Glove80 (self.ergomechkeyboards)
submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by danieldk to c/ergomechkeyboards
 

Got my Glove80 yesterday 🎉. Still too early for a proper review, but loving it so far. The transition from a Kinesis Advantage is straightforward , the pinky columns feel easier to reach which is a definite improvement.

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[–] galilette 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thoughts on thumbcluster re reachability? e.g. is it practical to have two alpha letters on the same side (for alt layout) without speed impact?

Also, what switch did you end up getting?

[–] danieldk 2 points 2 years ago

Thoughts on thumbcluster re reachability?

Good question! I think when floating I can reach 4-5 pretty well (for the innermost upper key I'd definitely have to move my hand). With my palms on the palm rests I can reach 3 (the lower row),for the upper row I move my hand. I can reach the closest upper row thumb key, but I'd be worried about pressing the keys below it.

Also, what switch did you end up getting?

Red. I don't like Choc Brown and White are probably too noisy. They feel better than expected. They also offer a limited run of Pro Reds in the next batch. I also considered getting the variant with switches unsoldered. I wouldn't have much of an issue soldering them, but with the price of the keyboard I preferred I decided not to do that.

[–] annoyed_onion 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How are you getting on with the lower profile switches?

I've used an advantage 2 for a year and recently built a hand wired dactyl which I've enjoyed using but I'm wondering if the lower profile switches help with speed or accuracy at all?

I'm a heavy typer and I bottom out the keys, which is probably quite inefficient! I've got linear MX switches on both.

Would love a follow up once you've used it for a while.

[–] danieldk 2 points 2 years ago

How are you getting on with the lower profile switches?

So far so good. I accept that I'll probably bottom-out more than on the KA2's Cherry Browns due to less travel after actuation, but since the switches are fairly light anyway it's probably not a big issue.

Would love a follow up once you’ve used it for a while.

I'll probably post a review after a few months of experience.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh wow this looks really nice. I'd really like to try a sculpted board some time, need to figure out if any meetups are happening around here.

[–] danieldk 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Contoured boards are great. Once I had my first Kinesis Advantage, there was no way back to flat keyboards.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any specific reasons from switching from a kinesics to a glove?

[–] danieldk 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The Advantage360 does not really improve over the Advantage2, in some respects it's a step forward (variable split/tenting), in other respects it's a step back (tiring switches, Bluetooth connectivity issues), and in many respects it's stuck in a 30 year old design (same key wells, same thumb cluster where I can only reach 2 keys per thumb without weird stretches or moving my hand).

The Glove80 is really a step forward in many aspects


better key wells, better thumb cluster, better portability, etc. It's a contoured keyboard that takes all the lessons of the Kinesis Advantage and improves over it.