As far as I know, at least in my instance, we're just defederating from instances full of bots or even worse, nazis.
this post was submitted on 30 Jun 2023
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Well, !beehaw.org defederated !lemmy.world, so by this logic, we're all nazis.
Are we the baddies?
Always have been
I'm a member of both and am enjoying both.
Yeah, that's the point.
If I remember correctly, they defederated because they wanted to keep the instance similar to how it was before the Reddit Migration. I might be wrong tho.
As I know, they defederated, because of open registration policy, here's a full post https://beehaw.org/post/567170. The point stands, federation doesn't work as of today.
How are some instances defederating from others (and by doing so, using an intended feature) proving that federation doesn't work?
You can always join another instance or host your own.
The point of federation is not having to browse each instance seperatly. If each instance defedarates from every other, all you get is bunch of small Reddits. Defederation is a feature, but if you have to use it, to combat open registration (standard feature of every website), then something is wrong. Even if that wouldn't be the case, I see a lot of instances defederating, because they don't like users or content of other instances. Which makes you think, what was the point of federation in the first place?
Imagine any other federated service like emails doing it. You want to register on a website, but no, website defederated your email provider, and you are forced to use their email. "Oh you can just register multiple emails" is not the answer anyone would accept.
100% agree. I really hope Apps will bridge this divide and allow a seamless experience across instances that have defederated. Heavy fragmentation may stop lemmy from succeeding altogether. The biggest draw for any social network is numbers. Small isolated instances will just naturally evaporate most of the time.
I might start my own instance with the policy to never de-federate.
I'm getting a 404 on that link
Entire beehaw instance kicked the bucket for some reason.
User-side 'defederation' or some sort of soft defederation later on would be great.
The use of de-federation as a super downvote button isn't the way.
Though it's very easy to do, just call the instance a nazi bar and suddenly everyone is ready to de-federate apparently.