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Hi. Long-time vaper here, by now almost 10 years, after having smoked for almost 40 years. Stopped doing that the evening that I first tried vaping, haven't touched a cigarette since.

I'm still astounded that the Dutch governments and health agencies discredit vaping, and consider it to be the route towards smoking, instead as a means of quitting. I wonder how your country is treating vaping?

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[–] tallwookie 4 points 1 year ago

America here - treated much like cigarettes (and taxed similarly), though I will note that it's been a while since I've smelled tobacco smoke. vape shops basically everywhere around my area (Seattle WA), though I have ordered online from a few places (WA tried to regulate vaping a lot a few years ago so I switched to buying online).

been vaping for 10 years as well, i prefer a "black honey tobacco" flavor, at 28mg. it's sweet but has that tobacco bite to it. used to vape all kinds of fruity flavors (blackberry was my favorite), but switched to my current juice a few years ago. I think I'm on my 4th or 5th rig, low-ohm coils that I run at 50w

[–] citizen67 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sadly, Canada is little better. They've done an excellent job of vilifying vaping, and most provinces have taxed it so heavily as to discourage it over other tobacco use.

I was a pack a day smoker for more than 20 years, and was finally able to quit with the use of a JUUL. I later transitioned open pod vapes, and then to lower-strength freebase nicotine (20mg/ml). I was fortunate enough to get into DIY before our regulations made it pretty well impractical for mouth-to-lung vapers.

[–] KarinSpaink 3 points 1 year ago

I got into DIY already in 2013, via a Dutch vapers' forum. We had monthly meetings at my house learning but coils, batteries and making liquids :)

Such a disaster that vaping has been villified. Yes, it's still nicotine, but without all the extra additions, and without having to burn stuff.

[–] alm42 3 points 1 year ago

Hey there, here in Italy it’s better, the nicotine it’s taxed but you can find pretty much everything you need. I start to vape 5 years ago, I try a cigarette sometimes but just to remember how disgusting they are.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Berlin, from the public it is treated like smoking.

The "good" part, Often I can vape with the smokers inside because nobody cares about the rules.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hi, France here. So far everything's fine, vape shops and online stores thrive and aren't impeded and we can vape quality products as French regulations are on the same page as European ones but slightly stricter. Taxes are low and DIY makes it even cheaper.
We cannot smoke or vape in indoors public spaces, and regarding restaurant and café terraces it's up to the owner to allow it or not.

If all goes according to plan (meaning, if politicians aren't bullshitting us) it might get better soon : our Health Minister François Braun is pushing towards well-informed improvements:

  • A strict ban on puffs (which imo aren't doing any good as they're aimed at youngsters to get a nic buzz, not at all to get off smoking);
  • Electronic cigarette might soon be reimbursed by health care payers.

(As a side note, puffs in France are already limited to 20 mg/ml but you still can get 50 mg/ml ones from foreign online stores, notably from Morocco and NZ).

(Side note #2: François Braun is a proper M.D. and a former ER department head. It certainly helps to have someone knowing what they're talking about, we're lucky on this one.)

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

For those who want to change the habit, welcome to join [email protected]

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