It's greener now, right?
this post was submitted on 29 Oct 2023
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Freeway medians don't count as green space.
I'm not American so I might not fully understand the repercussions of this. (houses being demolished and stuff)
But I honestly prefer the current version. It seems to have more green spaces. The highways could be shit, but if it meant better public transportation them I'm all for it (buses for instance). Maybe kill a few lanes and get a train going there or something...
I don't know, the old layout seems very claustrophobic to me. The newer one seems to have more potential.
Edit: Upon reviewing the picture again, I think the previous version had a lot of parks that seemed "claustrophobic" but it's just because it's a B&W picture... So maybe I'd change my mind and go with the older one.
But I honestly prefer the current version. It seems to have more green spaces.
Those "green spaces" are worthless freeway medians that do nothing but attract homeless camps. Here's a street view of some of it -- complete with panhandlers and tents in the background -- so you can see what I'm talking about.
Edit: LOL, nothing like downvoting a local for telling you the truth.
? I hadn't even read your comment until now.
I don't mind your guy's opinion at all, that was what I wanted to know when I left a comment. I even started by saying that I'm not even a local precisely because I wanted the locals opinions.
You all went out of your way to downvote me though, I'm not even quite sure why.
Also yeah, those underpasses look nasty af.
Apologies; my edit was directed at someone else, then.
Still, I think your comment earned its downvotes because suggesting the vast wasteland of parking lots and freeway medians has "potential" while calling the walkable, human-scale devlopment it replaced "claustrophobic" is... frankly, just objectively incorrect. I'm not sure you realize just how zoomed-out the view is, but for the record, those two prominent horizontal parallel roads (Memorial Dr and Fulton St) are about 1/4 mile (0.4km) apart. That means if you're trying to, say, walk from your house at the southeast corner of the image to the State Capitol just off the top of it, the majority of your journey is along a 5-lane stroad overpass above a busy freeway. It's among the least-pleasant pedestrian experiences one could imagine, short of not having a sidewalk at all.
Yeah I see what you mean. I had to go on street view to get it. I hadn't even realised that it was an overpass lol. Thought it was just a road but even so, it would be a boring walk.
With the old layout you'd have a more pleasant one through the neighbourhood and such.
Also about my initial comment, even though the parks looked claustrophobic to me, I said it was likely the black and white colors messing it up for me, and yeah we're zoomed out a lot. Also, parks are almost never claustrophobic anyways, I just meant how it looked from above I guess.
The homeless don't think those "green spaces" are worthless. Without them, where do you think they go? Just disappear??
You're not actually suggesting we should accept people living on freeway medians instead of building proper housing for them, are you?
No, quite the opposite. Your choice of words...
that do nothing but attract homeless camps
...comes across as disgusted, as if we can't have the homeless out here visible. I'm all for helping them and have volunteered and donated accordingly, though I could do more.
A green, shaded spot to camp is a lot better than many homeless have it I'm afraid. Better than a freeway underpass if I had to choose personally.
Of course I don't want to see homeless people there, because I don't want there to be homeless people there. And you shouldn't either! WTF is wrong with you, that you want people to be homeless?!
I'm not American so I will say that this is still terrible.
If you want to live in green space, move to soviet-era district:
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