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Gonna just say it. As a longtime Lemmy user I'm really not a fan of a lot of the people coming over from Reddit. It's probably just a small but vocal minority and confirmation bias on my part, but I get the impression that they are trying to turn Lemmy into Reddit, toxicity, entitlement, stupid challenges and all.

When we've had two major debacles before Reddit even opened back up, one about "how dare these unpaid admins try to lessen their workload with sign up questions", and the other about "how dare instances block other instances that are being used as proxies for forwarding spam and bot content into their own instances." The people from reddit seem to still think they're on Reddit and any perceived inferiority that Lemmy has compared to Reddit is seen as just as bad as Reddit's corporate decisions. A few people even trying to go to an instance with the intent of "converting" the existing users who may be socialist or communist, by commenting abuse on their posts of course, just like how they presumably do it on Reddit.

People also seem to be refusing to learn what federation is and how that works, despite it being literally the most important aspects of Lemmy. This is evident in people telling instances who block spam or troll ridden instances to "mind their own business" as if that content doesn't get forwarded over to and show up on the main pages of other instances, you know, what the fediverse was designed to do.

FYI, Reddit has opened back up. Spez has made it clear that he will never tolerate subreddits shutting down and inconveniencing you again. If you're so unwilling to even adopt a different mindset and perspective when coming to Lemmy, I think it's best if you went back. Plenty of us came here because we didn't want to be on Reddit.

Last thing and a pet peeve of mine: stop calling yourself a refugee. You left a meme website for another meme website because you didn't like one aspect of the management, the entire decision and migration probably took less than an hour of you sitting in your comfortable house in front of a computer. To compare that to being a refugee speaks volumes about your entitlement and privilege. And it's especially ironic considering what real refugees go through to save themselves and their families, that you won't even answer a few registration questions.

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[–] WhoRoger 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I was on Reddit and I'm feeling slightly insulted. "We" from Reddit may just as well call the old guards snobs, how'd you like that?

Honestly, the OG Lemmy instances had a major problem, that they weren't very clear on what kind of users and community they want. The old timers might have known, but to the new people it wasn't clear.

As a result, tons of people were signing up to lemmy.ml and beehaw, because those were the two on top of the list.

Then these two begun to get more picky about new users and content, and some other instances like lemmy.world spun up as general purpose for everyone, and most people "from Reddit" just signed up to those.

So now the OG instances are back to being special purpose, why are you still complaining?

I guess you can always kick everyone who signed to lemmy.ml in the last 3 weeks, and lemmy.world can defederate from everyone, exactly as intended in the design of Lemmy and the Fediverse. /s

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Honestly, the OG Lemmy instances had a major problem, that they weren't very clear on what kind of users and community they want. The old timers might have known, but to the new people it wasn't clear.

What small forum does that exactly? It's not like we started instances with the intent of absorbing Reddit users. In fact, if things had not grown organically like it had for so long, Lemmy would not be attractive at all for users of other platforms. Reddit grew organically in its early years too, so did every other social media.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

In my opinion most of those people aren't going to stay anwyay, they don't have the self control to stop using reddit.

[–] tallwookie 0 points 2 years ago

as a collective, the reddit hivemind prefers victim mentality over taking responsibility for their actions - so it really doesn't surprise me that the establishment takes offense at noobs trying to turn this platform into reddit & then blaming the admins/developers that the platform isn't what they wanted (or worse yet, refusing to create their own communities - victimhood, again).

[–] pwnstar 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I agree with all your concerns but the refugee thing. That's just silly AF. By the definition of the word, that is exactly what we are. We fled X to seek the safety of Y. It's been used in this exact sense for online communities for literal decades, you don't get to change it :)

[–] MiddleWeigh -1 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I like lemmy for what it is. I only used reddit fdfees rt²423 crew tþ4t5rwtye²2aew3twor a year, and I don't want a reddit clone at all . I think this works just as intended.

All the people complaining are just kinda hung upt, and don't realize it will all sort itself out as we sort ourselves out in some weird social experiment.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

You can stand on your porch, shake your fist, and yell "get off my lawn" all you want but the kids are going to keep trampling on your daisies.

It hasn't even really been a month since the rexodus began. You've got a lot of confused people who got fed up and are looking for a new home. Reddit, as wonderful as it's individual communities could be, was a toxic environment stewarded by people who stopped caring a long time ago and who, in many ways, encouraged that toxicity. When you're in a that environment long enough, those behaviors can become normalized and it takes time to unlearn.

I would advocate for some patience and some tolerance as we all work through the change and the growing pains that it involves.

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