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Cyberpunk 2077 faced a tough reception at launch, but with the Phantom Liberty DLC nearing launch, one CDPR dev feels the RPG was better than history records.

…uh, no. It was a hot mess at launch.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Nah. It was a mess on launch and it's still kind of a mess. It's full of dead ends and stuff that doesn't quite make sense from cut content, wonky bugs everywhere (play long enough and you'll see a bunch), and whole ass features missing. People need to remember that CDPR's magic is its writers, not its devs. The Witcher games, when compared with other 3rd person action focused games, aren't great. We're talking C+ to B- game design from my perspective. It's just that the dang stories and settings are so compelling.

There are dozens of games that do what Witcher or CP2077 do (gameplay wise) with vastly more polish and style.

Also I really hate the whole "yer dyin', V" conceit. It literally does not matter to the gameplay except for one tiny, hidden thing that a lot of players won't even see. Plus it serves no purpose in the broader narrative than serving as a reason to push V into action ... except he/she ALREADY HAS ONE. There's no need for second inciting event writers, you already wrote 3 of them, one for each background. So basically it's redundant and the way it's handled in the story feels like a cop-out. I hate it when the narrative and the game play aren't aligned; it just feels bad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Lmao it was not, not by any stretch of the imagination. It was a train wreck on all platforms.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I enjoyed it on my PC. I did wish there was more of the memory hack things.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I still remember feeling so betrayed after pre-purchasing that game. They had a "gold certificate" or something saying it was working with minimal bugs. Cyberpunk is the reason why I don't pre-order anything ever.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

It was a hot mess, but it got really good

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Cyberpunk 2077 was a hot mess at launch. The one good thing I think is the Judy storyline was pretty well done.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Article absolutely doesn't go into why someone might've thought it was bad, nice meme

my opinion nobody asked for, as someone who played it:
think the main story is great and that it touches upon a lot of cyberpunk themes in a very faithful way, not personally into GTA type gameplay and openworld, so that was a loss for me, but in general the world felt empty (why i tend not to like openworld) and the combat basic especially in comparison to anything promised a year before launch.
It also had some cute sidemissions here and there, particularly the Ghost in the Shell easteregg is tragic, and I enjoyed the sentient car (though I wish I could've been hanging out with my AI car alongside my tulpa)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I actually kind of believe them. But not because the game was in great shape when it launched and everyone ignored it.

I played on release and it was rough. But I also played it recently and it was also extremely buggy even though people act as if the game was patched into perfection. Performance is still awful, although even at minimum the game looks amazing. Reflections in particular look "grainy" and awful unless you put Screen Space Reflections on Psycho or enable RT which murders performance.

On the other hand, the story is pretty good, the characters are outright fantastic and the secondary missions (that aren't just going somewhere and murdering everyone) are great.

[–] twistedtxb 1 points 2 years ago

Cyberpunk has great atmosphere, but the city is completely devoid of life. Mindless NPCs, no interactions whatsoever. GTA III had a better, more living environnement.

Say what you will about Rockstar, but they set the bar really fucking high for Open World games.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Redmod sucks open up real modding and this solved

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

It was better, in that it was a good game compared to a lot of shovelware that gets released.

But that wasn't the issue. The issue was that it didn't deliver on a lot of what was promised, and one of the versions they released was virtually unplayable, to the point it had to be pulled off shelves.

If they had pulled back expectations and not made the old-gen version, it probably would've been much better received. They did a lot of things they shouldn't of done that either confused players, frustrated players, or just broke any trust they had.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

Did this dev even play the game on PS4 / Xbox? The current hardware it was developed for at the time? It run constantly sub 30 FPS, even dropping into 20s and below. Like I get the idea that it should of been a "next gen" only title, but copies of the game were sold with the expectation that it's would be payable, 20 FPS with poor frame pacing isn't acceptable

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