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Casual runners aren't wearing Nikes? Oh the shock. (www.oregonlive.com)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by pdxfed to c/running

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For most folks, once they're semi-regular runners, cost and turnover of shoes becomes a factor.

Running has an entire spectrum of needs, personally If Nike is shocked $75-$80(mid $50s after discount https://www.nike.com/w/mens-running-shoes-37v7jznik1zy7ok?sort=priceAsc) isn't competitive with pricing for other brands (Asics and New Balance are easily had for mid-$30s on sale) then I have a bridge to sell them. I(with most people) are not training for Boston, and don't want or need whatever bullshit is sold along with 2-20x the price tag for a pair of shoes to sweat in.

Feigning surprise their incredibly expensive pricing which pushed away the top of their marketing funnel impacts the middle and end of their funnel should be shame on their marketing and analytics team. That goes for any sport, their shit is overpriced and I couldn't give a shit about their brand.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

When a company decides to put shareholder profit above customer engagement and availability, it shouldn't surprise them when people don't want to engage with that brand anymore.

Sounds like Nike wants people to think it cares about running only when it sees that its profits as a collectors item fade since less and less people have disposable income for shoes. My Nike fund can't build up when all my extra money now goes to the grocery store, mortgage, and energy bills.

Any reasonable changes to restore face with the running community would mean eating into profits, which shareholders won't like, and they can't publicly say they need to do it to save the brand.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Even if they were cheap it wouldn't make the shoes good. Nike make some of the worst fitting shoes when it comes to my feet.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hmmm maybe I should explore beyond Nike for my next shoes. I bought my current shoes from them because my previous ones lasted forever and were great. My current ones are also fine, though it took a long time for me to get used to them.

On that note, when do you all replace shoes? I'm relatively new to running and I'm used to using shoes until they fall apart, which may take years. Is that the strategy or are there other factors like the dampening that I should take into account?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I change shoes when there is a problem. I buy ahead when there are sales so I usually have the next pair already when it's time to change but the most common reason I change is because there is a flat spot in the tread. If you get a blister it's time to change shoes, if you're not getting enough traction while running it's time to change shoes, if you're feet hurt more than normal for a few runs it's time to change shoes. Also make sure you're wearing good socks because they will help prevent issues and extend the life of your shoes and a little talc in your shoes will help them dry out faster which will extend the life of your shoes and help with odor.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I know a lot of people don’t seem to be fans of Nike, and I do notice many of them wear out faster than other brands. But the Pegasus has been a good workhorse for putting on miles, and I got them on sale as they were closing out the year’s models.

I’m also relatively new to running but I often came across the limit of 500 miles per shoe (and probably a little sooner if they start to hurt or something). So I have an app that pulls my runs over and I can pick which shoe I used, so it keeps a tally of how many miles they have left.

If you’re looking at other brands, Brooks, Hoka, and Saucony are pretty good ones to start with.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Most people recommend replacing shoes every 300-500 miles, but it really depends on the person. For example, a 200 lb person is going to put more stress on a shoe over 500 miles than a 100 lb person, so they should probably replace it sooner, all else being equal. Another thing to look for is if the carbon rubber outsole is starting to get worn, the softer midsole is probably trashed and not doing its job protecting your feet as well as it should.

[–] Bruncvik 3 points 1 year ago

I run between 3000 and 3500 km per year, som I'm going through a fair share of shoes. Usually, I go to my local running store, try on a few pairs and buy what feels best. I have a few runs, and if I like the shoes, I stockpile on them during online sales. I'm currently running in models that are two seasons out of date because I bought so many of them.

I never run in Nikes. Not for the lack of trying, but here in Ireland they refuse to stock their shoes in running shops and instead are trying to force everyone to shop for them online. Without trying them on, I won't buy running shoes, but fortunately there are so many alternatives that I don't regret skipping Nikes.

[–] odin 2 points 1 year ago

I tried Nike Pegasus and all they did was blister my feet to the point where I had to take time off from running to heal. I gave them a fair chance, but eventually I went back to my trusty ASICS. Sure I still get blisters when I run 50 mpw but not so bad that I need to stop running.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I get more expensive shoes (foot issues) and Nike isn't very appealing to me either. They are about the same quality as cheaper brands. Honestly Sketchers and New Balance are both probably better made than Nike. I can get Saucony for about the same price as Nike and Saucony is a vastly better shoe. Nike is more of a fashion brand than an athletic brand at this point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even Nike's casual sneakers fucking suck. They stink like a trashcan, are the same price as a pair of Adidas/Puma/etc. and fall apart after 3 months of use.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The old T90 laser cleats were amazing cleats. They also lasted one high school soccer season and the plastics they used smelled like gallons of cat piss in a hot car.