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The only service that comes to mind for me is NordVPN, which is based in Panama.

Is Panama the big brain move? If so, why aren't more privacy services doing this?

What kind of privacy laws are good in Panama? Any that aren't? Does it have a history of bowing to Five Eyes requests?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Panama is fully in the pocket of Corporate America. Think Panama Papers.

So if you’re rich, it’s pretty private until someone hacks the firm you’re using. If you aren’t as rich as people who wish you ill, it offers no protection.

[–] Unlucky_Boot3467 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No what I was asking. I updated my questions to reflect my intentions more.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I kind of answered your later question too — Panama bows to the highest bidder. I wouldn’t consider them a privacy haven of the sort we’d be looking for; they specialize in corporate privacy.

[–] Unlucky_Boot3467 1 points 1 year ago

Okay that's cool and all but what does that mean in practice? The Five Eyes pays panama to force a panama company like Nord to spy on someone? Can you explain what you mean?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thats why nordvpn is so cheap and its not rated in the top 5 VPNs by privacy sites even tho on paper it looks good

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been using ProtonVPN in Switzerland. Also their zero-knowledge email. They are building zero-knowledge cloud.

[–] sliceable_aspirin 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty sure they log your IP

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Likely yes. But Switzerland has decent privacy laws. And you can just use Tor browser after. Swiss laws don't allow US style fishing expeditions.