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I find this amazing. I hope Lemmy takes over as the one Reddit alternative. As I've been experimenting with it today I think it's on an amazing growth path and hopefully more streamlined communities will be setup too!

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Honestly, I hope Lemmy becomes a viable reddit alternative as well. I'm not sure if I will be going back to Reddit after the blackout, except perhaps to look at reference links or reviews on subs like r/askhistorians, r/askamechanic or r/patientgamers.

One of the things I've noticed since browsing Lemmy is how much more organic the content and discussion is here, and how astroturfed the communities on Reddit have become. I haven't noticed any brand names, ragebait, or anything like that, and it's so refreshing.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yah this is the forum based chatting I'm all about. I'm glad reddit did this a little bit, because I finally got pushed to check it out. I vastly prefer this, even if it's never hugely popular

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I feel the same way. Ive also always prefered a small quiet bar to a loud and busy one. I like to be able to actually hear the people I'm talking to. Reddit is just a noisy bar.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One thing that I'm unfortunately gonna have to keep going to reddit for the time being is all the niche, technical or creative fields I'm in (it's a lot..) where I just don't see that kind of content being available on Lemmy just yet, more growth needed for that.

However I think I'm going to curate my sub-list and remove all the general / news / memes / etc and replace all of that with Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I think we can just start creating some fundamental communities and see where they go. In reddit there are too many variations of the same theme and they are mostly successful (for many reasons - main being the number of users). Here we only need one per niche subject.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Also ofc I would be happy to donate a monthly amount to help keep the server running. My Apollo subscription money has to go somewhere now

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I’m kind of worried for the admin, though, since all the hosting is being done by them personally, and as Sopuli grows, that’s bound to get more expensive.

Lemmy’s biggest potential weakness is also its biggest strength: federalised and personal communities can and will go dark all of a sudden, making information and accounts very ephemeral.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

In the FAQ it says

A: Currently hosting Sopuli costs me ~12 € per month so it’s mere pocket change. I will however not rule out donations in the future.

I bet there will be a pinned post on this topic in Meta, if new users keep coming.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, you have been worried for a reason, and I have been worrying whether this instance holds up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Hey, I’m the creator of japaneselanguage, and I really hope this instance stays up, so if you need any assistance or help, or if you’re opening donations any time soon, I would be happy to help in any way I can!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's an actual big fear of mine. Is there a way to donate to an instance?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Some other instances have a donate button, but sopuli doesn't, at least at the moment. In the FAQ they say that it's not costing them much to host but I wouldn't be surprised if they add a donate button somewhat soon.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What I don't understand though. What was the reason for Kbin to be developed since we already have Lemmy as a Reddit alternative?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There seems to be consternation about "lemmygrad" and certain Mastodon users have decried Lemmy because the developer also runs "lemmygrad".

Also this https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards.png

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's so stupid. Though right now it seems kbin is federating better with Mastodon vis-a-vis the UX? Not tried it out yet but if true, that might be another reason.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I had never heard of kbin before the Reddit shitstorm began.

Kbin seems to be AGPL3 software targeting ActivityPub, so ultimately it doesn't matter, they're joining us rest. Seems like it's written in PHP so it could at least attract different contributors than what Lemmy would.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My understanding is it's all the same thing? Lemmy, kbin, mastodon are all fediverse? So we can join any and see all of them?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Not quite. Different things speaking (partially) the same language, ActivityPub.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think Lemmy can't see Mastodon, and using Mastodon to browse Lemmy is suboptimal. Kbin is the only app layer that can work "ok" with both.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

AFAIK, its USP is that it combines Lemmy community's and Mastodon hastags into magazines, which makes it easier to peruse certain subjects (if you're interested in microblogging). Also, the server handles a lot of the technical aspects of finding and subscribing to communities. So you can just follow a magazine about gaming instead of having to subsceibe to all the gaming communities you can find. The downsides are that you give away a lot of agency to a third party (and we know how that can end). Also, AFAIK the Kbin interface displays a lot of personal information, like your upvotes and subscriptions. It seems very oriented to following people over communities.

Kbin users do contribute to Lemmy communities and vice versa, so that is great. Personally, I feel Kbin adds a bit of bloat to the Lemmy experience, with the hashtags and complicated topic headers and all. But that is a minor annoyance.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I really hope that no matter happens in reddit, the blackouts lead a critical mass of people to here. At this point even if the Reddit owners turn around and revert all intended changes, it feels like u/spez crossed too many lines for anyone to undo the damage.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I think they crossed too many lines. I can't speak for all, but I'm staying and trying to be more active. There will be a tipping point and I don't mind waiting it out. Eventually enough users will make it great. I like the decentralized theme.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think they almost certainly won't. People already using reddit designs will stick around. That's okay though, I think enough will come that we can stay *here

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, I had been using official reddit app until the shitstorm happened - it's not about "oh the app I like is closing - I'll leave" and rather about the company being... well, a corporate shitout without any care for it's users. For me personally that is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I will at the very least keep using Lemmy as an addition to Reddit from now on. Whether I switch entirely depends on how big the userbase grows.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm definitely interested to see how this all develops. I'm using Jerboa app for Android. Would be great if some of the 3rd party app devs help bring the app some love.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Absolutely could use some improvement. A good excuse, on my part, to maybe learn some app development!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

New skill = bigger brain.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would be glad to make a reocurring donation somehow. Maybe $15 or 20usd/mo to offset some of the cost of the server as it has to be scaled up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

They should set up a fund to support scaling. I'm broke af but I'm a backend dev if they need a code monkey volunteer

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder how long will the Reddit blackout last.

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