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Reaching out to socialist countries requesting communes to allow communist immigrants (lemmy.ml)

submitted 9 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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The title. I messaged the Chinese government. I don't care if I'm silly, but a commune for immigrant communists which would help with language learning and possibly even fully independent life in said society if language gets mastered adequately is a legitimate need I feel overlooked in really dehumanizing ways. Just because someone didn't have the privilege to get a sought-after dyploma doesn't mean they have to die funding fascism with their labour. Not having such a sought-after dyploma doesn't mean you will be a drag upon the society. It's a really dehumanizing narrative. Besides, you can even get further education once you move and become a super productive member of a socialist country.

I'm gonna look into contact to Cuban gov and NK govs. Not sure if reaching out to the Vietnamese gov makes sense, based on the comments I saw saying the population itself wasn't communist, but maybe I've misread or fell for misinformation.

Perhaps it will all amount to nothing, which is what I expect, but the least I can do in life is try. Maybe the stars align and I can help comrades escape fascism.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

I'm not sure about the immigration process in any of the countries you mentioned, but I think you do need to come up with a good reason other than just being communist, how would the immigration office even vet your claims? Even if it sounds like your education experience doesn't look good, there's still your work experience to consider.

How did you "message the Chinese government" anyway, through their embassies or something? There are less than a million foreigners living in China according to the 2020 census: http://www.stats.gov.cn/english/PressRelease/202105/t20210510_1817193.html

IV. Purposes of Staying in Chinese Mainland

Of the above population, 77008 persons came for business, 444336 persons came for employment, 219761 persons came for study, 419517 persons came for settlement, 74735 persons came to visit relatives, and 195338 persons came for other purposes.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I sympathise with your position, but I need to throw a contrary perspective in here.

China hasn't fully recovered from the century of humiliation. Taiwan and Hong Kong aren't healing scars, they're open wounds. Western governments are trying their damndest to open new ones in Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia and Tibet.

How does it look to the Chinese comrades when Western comrades, instead of agitating their governments to leave China alone, abandon the revolutionary cause in their countries and ask for land in China? I mean we can call it a commune but it's essentially land that belongs to the Chinese people carved out as a living space for foreigners.

Maybe the better request would have been "Yours is looking good, help me with mine?" instead of "yours is looking good, give me some of it?"

Anyway, I think your best bet if you want to press on with it is to find your nearest Confucius Institute and mail them or even drop in. One if the few remaining needs China has of foreigners is helping to build and safeguard community abroad.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I have no nation. I don't control a government. I find it extremely naive to believe you may "fix" the west. It's full of fascists and the population is nearly entirely complicit. All you do by continuing to spend time here is helping the fascists by being a clog funding their aparatus. If you get close to a semblance of having an impact, they **will **assassinate you, as proven many times over. I tried being politically active only to discover how deeply fascism runs in everyday people's minds. I'm an extremely easy to identify minority wherever I go, including being an immigrant. I have no power and I see there's no tide of change. I'm not even a pessimist, I consider myself an optimist. I hope for a multipolar world. Fascists won't disappear in the west. Best I can do is hope I can escape.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

You might as well be describing the founding members of the CPC on a boat on Nanhu Lake 100 years ago.

Or many of the people in this community, for that matter.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I messaged Cuban and DPRK govs as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Idk, The DPRK never responds to their emails in my experience. I've begged them too many times to let me study at Kim-il-Sung university

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I would be very surprised if anything came of that, even recieving an explicit "no", but good luck.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Nothing to lose, all to gain.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

What is the general area/field your diploma is in? I dont think thr Chinese government will let arbitrary people into China to set up a commune... However, you could consider continuing your education in China (presumably a master if you have a bachelor?). China has scholarship schemes that you can look into. Many have full tuition plus living stipend. Then, you will improve your skills and enable yourself to stay more easily subsequent to your studies, if you so chose.