this post was submitted on 26 Jun 2023
758 points (98.7% liked)

Linux

45621 readers
1669 users here now

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

Rules

Related Communities

Community icon by Alpár-Etele Méder, licensed under CC BY 3.0

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

An exceptionally well explained rant that I find myself in total agreement with.

(page 2) 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Zinggi57 3 points 1 year ago

Wait, I only knew this name from good Ansible stuff. I had no idea he created great videos too!

[–] moon_crush 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I can’t believe how many people fundamentally misunderstand the spirit behind the GPL.

It helps to consider “the software” as a single snapshot in time, with the GPL’s intention that the consumer may make their own fixes, rebuild, and redistribute. Check.

Remember: “Free as in freedom, not free as in beer.” Selling open source software has always been explicitly allowed, as long as you make the source available to those who receive it. Check.

What the GPL does NOT provide is guaranteed access to maintenance and future versions of said software. Again, it applies to a snapshot, as delivered.

In a nutshell, the customer receives open source everything they FOR A PARTICULAR VERSION.

I see no problem — either in spirit or letter — in Redhat’s approach here.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

What if you bought an android phone, and could ask them for the source code to the Linux kernel on it, but if they caught you sharing it online, they would not allow your phone to update to the latest Android version?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is debatable. The GPL allow redistribution of a given version of the software without additional restriction. If the user receives that copy knowing in advance that redistribution will lead to retaliatory actions this can be treated as an additional restriction.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The GPL requires that you do not put additional limits on a user's rights to redistribute.

Saying "you have the right, but we'll cut ties" isn't really in keeping with the spirit of that.

I suspect, if it ever ended up in court, they'd agree yhat there's no guarantee of access to future versions, but that doesn't mean that it isn't a shitty and cynical take that flies against what FOSS has traditionally stood for.

[–] moon_crush 2 points 1 year ago

We can agree to disagree. “The Software” was delivered, source included. And you as end consumer are free to redistribute and maintain as you wish.

However, I cannot see any contract law judgement that would force continuation of a subscription model on the vendor (in perpetuity!) if they do not wish to remain under contract.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Ok, yes as far as I understand they are not breaking the GPL, but it's still a d**k move as it leaves downsteam projects/distros in a mess of a situation. While technically allowed, I'm with Jeff on this one.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments
view more: ‹ prev next ›