At 12W under load, it's getting close to X86 processors in energy consumption.
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12w? Explaining Computers did some stress testing and only pulled 6 but that was without stressing the GPU too
Was hoping for PoE without the need for a hat :p
get them passive filters they are great
That would have been a big improvement for homelab uses, but it’s probably considered a niche feature overall, hence the PoE Hat.
I’m wondering how it will work now they are pushing a dedicated cooler however. The PoE Hat has a little fan but doesn’t allow for heatsink. Perhaps there will be a new Pi5 PoE Hat.
EDIT: The PoE header on the Pi 5 has been moved, so a new PoE HAT will be required, but has not been announced yet.
I've just been buying old CN62 chromeboxes off of ebay, flashing them for a normal bios and putting Linux on them. I can usually pick them up for around $30 with an intel x86 processor, an M-key PCI-e slot, along with all the low power states, gigabit ethernet, and they're like 3x faster than a Pi 4. They come with 2gb of ram, but it actually is upgradable, so some of the boxes I have laying around have got 8gb in them. No PoE though :(
With the Raspberry Pi foundation seemingly prioritizing commercial customers over normal consumers (contrary to their stated goals), I'm just gonna give up hope now of ever having one, and simply get an Orange Pi 5 which is available, and faster. I am happy that they seem to be moving the right direction with things though (fan headers, proper power management, PCIe 3.0 breakouts, etc)
Availability has been improving recently, at least in my country (UK).
While the hardware specs are often more compelling, the problem I find with the Pi alternatives is they usually depend on custom images and kernels. Pi hardware may be less ideal but I feel more confident it will have lasting software support.
Availability has been improving recently because all of the commercial partners were given a heads up that the Pi 5 was releasing and they have ramped down their purchasing of the 4 for that reason. That's why Ebon Upton, who has no reason to speak up about this stuff, mentioned "Pi 4s will be in stock soon!"...because he was ramping up for the Pi 5 release. He pulled this shit with my hackerspace back with the original Pi. He came, gave a presentation, and the Pi 1 only had 256mb of ram at the time. Sold like 100 pis at that event, promised us nothing was changing, and then a week later, announced that all pis were going to get 512mb free and by default for the same $35 we all paid. He's a scumbag, and I've watched him closely ever since. He hasn't changed a single bit. In fact, his announcement about Pi 4s being in stock for everyone again soon was my heads-up that the Pi 5 was releasing, so I told everyone to stop buying them that asked me.
Oh, hell yeah. Preordered.
Where were you able to pre order from? I can't find anywhere.
Just went down their posted reseller list by location: https://www.raspberrypi.com/resellers/
In the U.S., Sparkfun was already taking preorders. The others will probably get their own page up soon.
every site i checked lists this at $65+ for the base model... is this even a Raspberry Pi at that point? 2x the performance for 2x the price isn't actually much of a deal, and they stuck to the $35 MSRP so doggedly before (even if resellers tended to jack it up). their competitors must be breathing a sigh of relief.
It's a strange beast, i feel like I'd like it as alow powered desktop substitute as it's too powerful/draws roouch power to be used in place of a microcontroller. But it's not got enough ram to act as a useful desktop either. Probably just my own usecase, but 16GB would be perfect
Ngl I think they could do better on the CPU front. Competing boards offer the RK octa-core that matches the Big cores on the Pi but offers 4 extra Little cores. Though they seem to have better drivers here
i wish they'd make a verson with more ram!
8gb isn't enough? What are you computing on it?
There will never be enough RAM or storage.
Orange Pi 5 and 5 plus got 16gb. Orange Pi 5 got even 32Gb.
It says 4 GB and 8 GB versions available at launch. Does that imply there's a higher capacity version later on?
Jeff Geerling(sp?) mentioned that there was some rumor that this new broadcom chip could handle 16gb.
the current board only offers 1, 2, 4 and 8GB. They'll likely release a 5B at some point with 16GB if needed.