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Martin Scorsese is urging filmmakers to save cinema, by doubling down on his call to fight comic book movie culture.

The storied filmmaker is revisiting the topic of comic book movies in a new profile for GQ. Despite facing intense blowback from filmmakers, actors and the public for the 2019 comments he made slamming the Marvel Cinematic Universe films — he called them theme parks rather than actual cinema — Scorsese isn’t shying away from the topic.

“The danger there is what it’s doing to our culture,” he told GQ. “Because there are going to be generations now that think ... that’s what movies are.”

GQ’s Zach Baron posited that what Scorsese was saying might already be true, and the “Killers of the Flower Moon” filmmaker agreed.

“They already think that. Which means that we have to then fight back stronger. And it’s got to come from the grassroots level. It’s gotta come from the filmmakers themselves,” Scorsese continued to the outlet. “And you’ll have, you know, the Safdie brothers, and you’ll have Chris Nolan, you know what I mean? And hit ’em from all sides. Hit ’em from all sides, and don’t give up. ... Go reinvent. Don’t complain about it. But it’s true, because we’ve got to save cinema.”

Scorsese referred to movies inspired by comic books as “manufactured content” rather than cinema.

“It’s almost like AI making a film,” he said. “And that doesn’t mean that you don’t have incredible directors and special effects people doing beautiful artwork. But what does it mean? What do these films, what will it give you?”

His forthcoming film, “Killers of the Flower Moon,” had been on Scorsese’s wish list for several years; it’s based on David Grann’s 2017 nonfiction book of the same name. He called the story “a sober look at who we are as a culture.”

The film tells the true story of the murders of Osage Nation members by white settlers in the 1920s. DiCaprio originally was attached to play FBI investigator Tom White, who was sent to the Osage Nation within Oklahoma to probe the killings. The script, however, underwent a significant rewrite.

“After a certain point,” the filmmaker told Time, “I realized I was making a movie about all the white guys.”

The dramatic focus shifted from White’s investigation to the Osage and the circumstances that led to them being systematically killed with no consequences.

The character of White now is played by Jesse Plemons in a supporting role. DiCaprio stars as the husband of a Native American woman, Mollie Kyle (Lily Gladstone), an oil-rich Osage woman, and member of a conspiracy to kill her loved ones in an effort to steal her family fortune.

Scorsese worked closely with Osage Principal Chief Geoffrey Standing Bear and his office from the beginning of production, consulting producer Chad Renfro told Time. On the first day of shooting, the Oscar-winning filmmaker had an elder of the nation come to set to say a prayer for the cast and crew.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That movie sounds dope.

As for the other part, I love comic book movies, but still agree. I think he might get more agreement if he reframed it as a complaint about homginization. For instance, I think The Batman was surprisingly fresh. Whereas the Flash was like... high end tv, maybe? Like, not BAD, but you've gotta ask: how many people will watch it five years from now? What ideas or artistic images is it introducing?

I think some comic movies --Black Panther, for instance -- move culture and inspire new stories. But a lot don't. I've heard it said that the modern studio system could never make Back to the Future or Ghostbusters, and I think that's true. A lot needs to change about how these are financed and distributed to make that not the case.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I’ve heard it said that the modern studio system could never make Back to the Future or Ghostbusters, and I think that’s true.

What does this even mean?

[–] AsimovsRobot 4 points 1 year ago

Probably talking about new IPs? Studios are pretty risk averse nowadays.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It obviously means studios wouldn't take a chance on something "wacky" which is a change that prevents as much actual creativity from getting to audiences

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I apologize, but the case was made to be in a long and very compelling article that I don't have a link for.

I think it was about consolidation, and how the lack of diversity in small independent theaters and small independent distributors robbed movies that weren't copies of successful films the chance to become surprise hits.

Now, most theaters are chains, and they're largely owned by the same entities that own distributors. So everywhere shows the same films, and there's no one to take a chance on something different or risky.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Stop making things I personally don't like! It's destroying the culture of America!"

The future is comic book movies, old man. Deal with it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I believe Disney is doing it on their own by now. Look at what is happening to Marcel and the DCU, I see only big failures recently and viewers are exhausted by it too.

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[–] AtomfriedMegaforce 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Oh yes Martin. Please save the cinema by yawns making the 100th Mafia movie.

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[–] ThrowawayInTheYear23 1 points 1 year ago

Only uncultured peasants watch movies. 😜

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