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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Tricky subject with no easy answer. What I will say, is that I think the governments should not grant allowance to burn religious scripture, or destruction of important symbols outside of embassies. That I think is 100% taking it too far. You are now purposefully, intending to incite a group of people. And there is no doubt that, that is your intent.

Personally I've been back and forth on my stance as I've reflected on the proposal, various arguments for and against, and my thoughts. I'm leaning towards it shouldnt be banned in public in general. But it should not be allowed directly outside of embassies as the only intention to wanting to do that is to incite others.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

If you came for the comments, turn back now ๐Ÿ˜‚

Europeans believe in freedom, as in freedom from harassment and hate speech, for everyone, for the good of everyone

Americans believe they personally should have freedom to do or say anything, even if it's hateful and incites violence, as long as they personally are "free", even if it is bad for society as a whole

These are incompatible views and no good can come of this thread

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

No books should be burnt just because you don't like them or are "controversial".

Burning Mein Kampf because it's controversial, is the same as burning To Kill A Mockingbird.

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[โ€“] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (36 children)

Tbh, I kind of think it should be. Not de facto illegal, like if you accidentally burn it somehow, but if you intentionally do it to piss people off then that intention isn't exactly right itself. If you're putting on a public display purely to incite and antagonise people by destroying things they hold dear, then you're not merely exercising your freedoms but actively seeking to harm others.

It's all very grey area though, and any punishment should reflect that the harm is not physical and relatively low. This law almost definitely goes too far.

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