Keep the count Of totally vote on a comment/post It's nice but don't bring back karma no reason it should exist and we should learn from reddit why it's bad
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Karma as used on Reddit is fairly useless. A web-of-trust style karma system (do people whose opinions I respect also respect this person's opinions) would be helpful for sifting through the crap.
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I don't like it as well, but maybe there should be a hidden count? I know some subreddits have a minimum karma requirement to post, in order to avoid bots. It might be needed here at some point.
The problem with downvotes is they're supposed to be used to push irrelevant things down and bring forward the "productive conversation", but...
...it's easier to use them as an "I disagree with you, get lost loser" button, and I feel like that doesn't usually help the discussion. And upvotes already bring up the good comments (although sometimes the most voted stuff is just memes and you miss the interesting stuff).
Make it so you have to spend reputation to downvote, people would downvote less for disagree and more for bad content
I like the thought behind this idea but I don't think it's a good solution. It requires having a reputation score, which I think outweighs the positives here. I could also see people trying to play this system in a couple different ways, which is just plain bad for discussion culture: encourage others to downvote something without spending the reputation yourself, or collect downvotes with bait content in order to eat through other peoples reputation.
Would separate votes for agreeing/disagreeing, and separate for relevance work?
My local newspaper attempted "well argumented" and "agree/disagree" scores years ago. Later they removed the "agree" score, and I recall some accusations of orwellian moderation, but I think this is a cool idea that deserves more experimentation.
Also, clearly naming the upvotes and downvotes might affect their usage.
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I give no fucks whatsoever
Mlem iOS app shows post and comment scores.
This is talking about overall "karma" not individual post scores.
I personally prefer Kbin over lemmy for a few different reasons. But reputation isnβt one of them. I forget it even exists.
Literally just learned that it exists today from this post.
i learned about it because i noticed my profile has -1 reputation. i didn't even know this existed. I agree with others, karma on reddit was stupid and people used low karma as a way to gatekeep subs. you couldn't post until you have 100 karma, that sort of thing. It's bad for business in my opinion.
Fundamentally, karma limits were mostly used as an anti-spam measure, if a rather crude one. I was actually a mod of a couple relatively large subs, and while I did feel bad for the impact on new users, the benefit from how much spam we caught with it made it ultimately worthwhile. There very well may be better approaches out there though, and I am excited to see how things grow here, but it is going to be a problem that the Fediverse will face as well.