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Opinion on the Donetsk and Luhansk People's republics? (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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For my part, if they are truly socialist not just by name but have plans for a socialist governing on top of seeking for self-determination after being locked in Ukraine, they have my support BUT i fear that they might be just socialist by name and just end up becoming part of the russian federation which in that case would obviously strip any leftist of the will to support their movement. But i have to admit that i haven't done much research on this topic.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

They're not even socialist by name, they're basically just looking to model Russia's existing post-soviet capitalist government with some orthodox christian nationalism thrown in. We don't stan LPR or DPR. A founder and the first head of state of the DPR was Pavel Gubarev, an RNU member. The second head of state of the LPR, Igor Plotnitsky, was a post-Soviet class traitor plutocrat oil profiteer. These are not socialist projects, not materially, not in ideals, not in name.

These disputed states are enemies of the Great Satan and absolutely nothing more, besides their anti-NATO positonality they have no redeeming qualities.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

god i hate it when the right claim revolutionary aesthetics to catch people into their shit....but then again its nothing new: the nazis and black-shirts have all appropriated leftist "aesthetics" and slogans to increase their follower base and give them the illusion of progressive change

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Who is doing that here?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago

the luhansk and donetsk PRs?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

I think we have a comrade from the area? I can't say anything about it myself though. Fog of war makes it impossible to find reliable information, at least for someone like me who doesn't already know what to look for